The scale and its other liar acolytes

scale-lies

Can you trust your scale while losing weight?

We’ve been conditioned to step on a scale to check whether we’re gaining or losing weight. Some do it every day, others every now and then. Some have actually buried their scale deep in a closet, never to be seen again, while others have tossed it the garbage bin, or may even have set it on fire.

In our low-carb clinic, we weigh patients at every visit. It is, indeed, one of the markers of progress. It’s the one everyone cares about, but it’s the least reliable one. It lies all the time about the progress being made. It can be discouraging, especially for those who have been eating clean keto for weeks.

What we tell patients

Here’s what we tell patients:

  1. Your body contains a lot of water, and it tries to keep it stable, within 2 litres. One litre of water is around 2 pounds or 1 kg. If you’ve just drank a lot of water, you will weigh more. If you just exercised, you might weigh less. It’s just water.
  2. Patients usually weigh themselves at home, in their birthday suit. We prefer not to do that in the clinic. Clothes can easily add around 2 pounds (1 kg).
  3. Different scales give different readings. There can be a significant difference between the scale used at home and the scale in my office. I learnt that the hard way when my 5-pound (2 kg) newborn baby girl was “losing too much weight” on one scale in a pharmacy, and “gaining just right” on the scale at the clinic. One result nearly sent us back to the hospital in a panic (you know, first time parents panic easily), while the other one made us sigh in relief. Using the same scale all the time helps.
  4. Muscles weigh more than fat but use less space. My patients get a complete evaluation with Marc Ciminelli, our kinesiologist, about halfway through their 6-month-program. At that point, usually, they feel so much better, they are really eager to get moving. As they start exercising according to their capabilities, we often see the weigh loss slow down on the scale. Some patients get really discouraged because of that. They are used to measuring progress with the scale. Nurse Sylvie constantly reminds them that centimeters off the waist are a much better marker of progress, and a much better marker of metabolic health.
  5. The days after an intense weight-training program, you may also weigh more, as your muscles are sore and a bit swollen.
  6. Exercising and eating healthy can help increase bone density. If your bones get denser, they get heavier.
  7. Carbs can cause water retention. If you’ve indulged in something high carb, you will likely retain water. Insulin causes water retention. One slice of bread did not make you gain 4 pounds (2 kg) of fat overnight.
  8. Constipation can cause an excess of 1 to 4 pounds (0.5-2 kg).
  9. Hormonal changes can cause temporary water retention.
  10. Etc.

So, the scale is a big liar when it comes to telling the whole story of progression. It’s one of the biggest liars in my opinion. But there are others. And those can be deceiving not only for the patients, but for the doctors as well.

Centimeters off the waist

In our clinic, we also measure cm or inches lost around the waist. To be accurate, we measure at the belly button (not the actual waist), trying to maintain a horizontal line with the tape measurer, so that it’s easily reproducible from one visit to the next. We know that central obesity (think “beer belly”) is a strong marker of metabolic disease, like insulin resistance, fatty liver, chronic inflammation, etc. Waist circumference is one of the recognized official criteria of metabolic syndrome.

Losing centimeters off the waist is a much better marker of health improvement than is the scale. And those two don’t necessarily go hand in hand. It is very frequent to see a loss of numerous centimeters while the scale doesn’t move a notch.

Patients are disappointed when the scale doesn’t budge. Sylvie reminds them that centimeters are a greater victory. They half-smile. Their minds still mainly care about the number on the scale. Switching that mindset is a constant work in progress.

But centimeters can lie too.

fat-comparison

These are scans of two patients with the same waist circumference. To understand what you are looking at, imagine looking at all the circles inside a sawn tree.

On the left, you see a fair amount of muscles. It’s the black oval shapes you see right underneath the white outer layer of fat.

On the right, you can see a very thin layer of muscles under the fat. You can also see a LOT of white fat inside the abdominal cavity. It’s all around and inside the organs. We call these people TOFI, which means thin on the outside and fat on the inside. A TOFI can look normal or healthy, but that is deceiving.

Below are eight examples of men with the same waist circumference.

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4And as this image to the right shows, you can even have the same weight, same body mass index and same percentage of body fat, and still not have the amount of fat inside. It is the fat inside the abdominal cavity, the visceral fat, that increases the risk of cardiovascular disease.

So, losing centimeters is wonderful as a marker of improved metabolic health. But the actual number of centimeters can not always be trusted. Don’t assume a person is healthy or doesn’t have type 2 diabetes just because he or she has a waist circumference that doesn’t meet the metabolic syndrome criteria.

Lipid panels

At our low-carb clinic, we do extensive blood work with every patient at the beginning of the program, at 3 months and at 6 months. Amongst other things, we check and follow lipid markers. Not just LDLs, of course. As Dr. Ken Sikaris would say (check out his wonderful videos about lipids on YouTube) “If you only care about LDLs, you’re 30 years behind”. To fully grasp how right he is about this, check out The Cholesterol Code.

For all kinds of reasons, when people embark on a low carb or keto journey, and especially if they have a fatty liver and/or a lot of weight to lose, the first few lipid panels can give all kinds of scenarios, encouraging or worrisome. Sometimes it’s just a lab fluke. You or your doctor must not interpret this as a proof that low carb isn’t good or isn’t working for you. For the vast majority of patients, lipid markers will normalise eventually, and show significant improvements compared to baseline. It may need time.

HbA1c or A1c

Here’s another liar: glycated hemoglobin. It is a form of hemoglobin (red blood cells) that is measured basically to estimate someone’s average sugar level over the last 3 months. It’s particularly useful with patients with diabetes. Patients who eat less carbs, and therefore less sugar, expect their HbA1c to go down. But it can also be a liar.

If you have diabetes and on any number of sugar-lowering drugs, including insulin, your sugar levels are indeed expected to go down as you start eating low carb. They will go down to near normal, at which point I will reduce or eliminate one of your drugs. Your sugar levels will rise back up a bit (below 12 at all times is my goal). As you keep eating low carb, they will go down again. I will reduce or eliminate another drug. The sugar levels will temporarily rise a little again, but will go down eventually, and so on and so forth. The goal being to eliminate all diabetes medication if possible (as well as most anti-hypertensives).

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Source of graph: Intensive Dietary Management

So, when HbA1c is measured in the middle of this waltz, it is possible that it shows a higher value than the previous one. Does it mean it’s not working? Certainly not. If the latest value was achieved with, say, 2 or 3 drugs discontinued, then it’s definitely working.

So, for any patient eating low carb, and for any doctor following patients on a low-carb journey, I think it is essential to measure progress with more than one marker, and to give the whole process of disease reversal enough time to see the emergence of a trend. Allow for bumps on the road, inexplicable ups and downs, markers that temporarily go in the wrong direction. Focus on feeling well, not so much on the scale or on its other lying friends.

Remember that no one got diabetes or overweight overnight. It took time to get sick, it will take some time for your body to get healthy again. Just keep on low carbing it. And consider putting the scale away for a while.


Dr. Èvelyne Bourdua-Roy

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22 comments

  1. Karen
    I wish she would say Type 2 diabetic instead of just diabetic. Type 1 diabetes DOES happen overnight and isn't reversible with diet. I got it at 47 years of age.
  2. Vanessa
    Brilliant article. Thank you ?
  3. Peter
    Karen, neither type is truly reversible with diet but they are both controllable with diet and it is possible with properly controlled low carb diet to get off all medications for both. In type 1 Diabetes, it is more complex to control and it requires frequent measurement but it is doable.
  4. Vince
    I found the reasons why the scale can lie particularly interesting. Some of these are logical and well known (like muscles). But, there were a few there that I hadn't heard of. I love the convenience of using a scale to measure progress but in most cases I've found it's more stressful than useful.
  5. Schellie
    I have been living the LCHF lifestyle for 3 months now. I have lost inches but when I get on the scale I haven't lost any pounds. Is that common?
    Reply: #6
  6. Peter Biörck Team Diet Doctor
    Hi Schellie!

    That's common... inches are better than pounds. :) But if you are overweight then you hopefully starts to lose pounds to.

    I have been living the LCHF lifestyle for 3 months now. I have lost inches but when I get on the scale I haven't lost any pounds. Is that common?

  7. Linda
    I was getting very frustrated and that can lead to binging on carbs. Had wonderful weight loss the 1st week, but since have gained 3 pounds even thought still following LCHF. But I have lost inches. Now I know why. Increased water and weight training. Thanks.
  8. Linda
    I was getting very frustrated and that can lead to binging on carbs. Had wonderful weight loss the 1st week, but since have gained 3 pounds even thought still following LCHF. But I have lost inches. Now I know why. Increased water and weight training. Thanks.
  9. Jeannie
    I have been following the challenge carefully since Sunday, I have not lost an ounce or an inch in fact I seem to have actually gained as couple of pounds-- Inches have not changed. Is it because I am older? I exercise 5 days a week --weights and aerobic or walking or zumba. I am getting very frustrated !
  10. Susan
    I am on week number two. Both my husband and I are following the LCHF. The scale has not moved for me at all! My husband on the other hand has already lost weight and is back in his smaller pants. Frustrating......
  11. Peter
    I was pleased to read this article.

    I initially lost 9lb and restarted resistance training which I thoroughly enjoy. Since that first weigh in a month ago I’d not stepped back on the scales. The results were easily measurable as I could get back in shirts I’d not put on for months, same with jeans and I’d gone down two notches on my belt. I am moving way better, I have so much more energy and best of all people are asking me how I’ve lost so much weight. All was great; until.

    I returned from the gym today, I was feeling fantastic so I thought I’d weigh myself. I was looking forward to seeing at least another 10lb to be gone, I mean why not? My clothes, my fitness and my friends were all telling me a story of great progress. Imagine my horror when I discovered I’d only lost 2 lb. I couldn’t believe it and it threw me into a mild depression. After much sulking I thought I’d visit LCHF bible (this site) to see if I could get answers. This article has brought me back. Thank you.

    Back to the gym tomorrow as I have to replace the fat loss with lean muscle and carry on feeling great. Obviously

  12. Eira
    I have been on this LCLF for six weeks
    I have nt seen any change at all either on the scales or measurements but I will keep going I love the food and I’m not hungry any more
    Thank you
    Eira Clews
  13. Rowayda
    I'm doing the 2wk challenge but picked up 1kg since Monday. This is not the first time I'm doing LCHF, before I was on it for 2 months and no loss on the scale or cms.
    I am on antidepressants and pain meds for a knee surgery I had last year in Sept. I need to lose at least 20kg before I can have further surgery on the knee,
    I love the way I'm eating, gave up potatoes, rice, pasts and bread years ago.
    Please tell me what I'm doing wrong, thx Rowayda
    Reply: #14
  14. Kristin Parker Team Diet Doctor
    Please be more patient! You may not be doing anything wrong. This article is all about why paying attention to the scale can be more frustrating than rewarding.
  15. Isabeau
    First I must say thank you for the information it helped a great deal to understand what’s going on inside our bodies while we are adopting a much healthier way of eating. By the end of the 2 week challenge I lost
    10lbs and 1 inch off my waist. The end of the 3rd week I didn’t lose any weight and was slightly disappointed and decided that good things come slowly especially losing weight. Today because I was bored and my husband is in Texas. I decided to play dress up with some of my smaller sized clothes, that I had put together to donate to charity, imagine my surprise when I could actually wear them and comfortably and not tight the way they used to fit. Keeping my chin up and continuing on. Good luck everyone on your journey towards your goal.
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  17. Cheryl
    Muscle does NOT weigh more than fat. 1 pound of muscle weighs the same as 1 pound of fat. A pound is a pound. But yes, muscles take up less space. Please make the correction in your article. Otherwise, a great read.
    Reply: #18
  18. Gentiann
    Yes, muscle weighs more than fat if you consider an identical volume : a cup of muscle weighs more than a cup of fat. I believe this is what Dr. Bourdua Roy means here.
  19. Esther
    Hi! I’ve been 4 months in Keto , I have lost 42 pounds, but in inches I am slow. It’s that good?
  20. Nina
    Hi! I've been on keto since 22nd Sept. 2020 and have lost 44 pounds. My goal is 50kg since I'm only 162cm :) I loooove keto! I'm never hungry, I have lots of energy, my spirit is in better place and my body is starting to look like before I was pregnant. Don't give up! Results will show in time, be patient! Good luck to you all!
  21. Alicia
    Thank you for this article, and for all the other articles and resources! I restarted keto (third time for me) on March 10. For the past week or so, my blood sugar has been crashing suddenly around 5:00 p.m. every day, and then remains unstable. I have trouble falling asleep because of low blood sugar and wake up shaky. Even if I eat something at 5:00 p.m. (not being hungry, but just trying to avoid the blood sugar crash), my blood sugar still plummets within minutes of finishing the meal. Do you have any idea what might be causing this? Thank you.
    Reply: #22
  22. Kristin Parker Team Diet Doctor

    Thank you for this article, and for all the other articles and resources! I restarted keto (third time for me) on March 10. For the past week or so, my blood sugar has been crashing suddenly around 5:00 p.m. every day, and then remains unstable. I have trouble falling asleep because of low blood sugar and wake up shaky. Even if I eat something at 5:00 p.m. (not being hungry, but just trying to avoid the blood sugar crash), my blood sugar still plummets within minutes of finishing the meal. Do you have any idea what might be causing this? Thank you.

    If you are eating two normal sized, low carb meals a day and dealing with crashing blood sugar, please check in with your doctor. If you are on medication for blood sugar, please read this guide.
    https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/with-diabetes-medications

  23. Alicia
    Thank you, Kristin. I take no medication at all, and fixed the problem by reducing my fat intake. It seems that I'm very sensitive to these macro levels.

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