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EventsA ketogenic diet with fewer vegetables
September 16 2019 by Amanda Åkesson, BSc![Amanda Åkesson, BSc]()
, medical review by Dr. Andreas Eenfeldt, MD![Dr. Andreas Eenfeldt, MD]()
in About membership, Bipolar disorder, Dementia, Depression, Fibromyalgia, Keto, Ketosis
, medical review by Dr. Andreas Eenfeldt, MD
in About membership, Bipolar disorder, Dementia, Depression, Fibromyalgia, Keto, Ketosis
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Could you be better off reducing your vegetable intake – or just skip it all together? And could ketosis be helpful for improving Alzheimer’s disease and mood disorders?
This is an interesting interview with psychiatrist Dr. Georgia Ede who will give you an answer to all these questions.
Watch the full interview above (transcript).
Table of contents
0:05 The benefits of a ketogenic diet
3:34 Alzheimer’s and keto
4:50 How healthy are vegetables really?
9:33 The many problems with the current science
13:05 Is fiber really necessary?
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Yes, there are peoples around the world--in the so-called "BlueZones" for example, who appear to contain individuals who live a very very long time compared to our modern expectations. Unfortunately it is impossible for us to know what precisely is responsible for their longevity, because there are so many differences between how they live and how the average westerner lives--not the least of which is that their diets are extremely low in refined carbohydrates and other processed foods. Many of them do eat animal foods, as well, so these are not plant-based folk, for the most part.
I welcome the skepticism and appreciate your having given me the benefit of the doubt! Our conversation was informal and impromptu--I didn't know in advance that Ivor wanted to interview me and didn't know what the topics would be until a few minutes before filming, so I wasn't prepared with any references. I have lots of evidence to support my unconventional views in a variety of free articles on my own website http://www.diagnosisdiet.com as well as on Psychology Today https://www.psychologytoday.com/experts/georgia-ede-md. A good place to start would be my vegetables page: http://www.diagnosisdiet.com/food/vegetables/ Hope you're having a great weekend!
Great question! As Lisa B. mentions in her nice response, our requirement for vitamin C is much lower if we eat a low-carbohydrate diet because sugar competes with vitamin C in the body. Our true requirement is only 10 mg per day to prevent scurvy. There is an excellent, detailed exploration of this topic by my friend and colleague Amber O'Hearn, who is very knowledgeable about all-meat diets: http://breaknutrition.com/ketogenic-diet-vitamin-c-101/
Just for the record, I agree with you about dairy. I do not eat dairy and advise people to be careful with dairy, as many of us have sensitivities to it and it raises insulin and growth hormone levels in human beings, making it harder to lose weight. Meat does not equal dairy:)
Congratulations on your health improvements (and your financial savings)! I agree with your excellent response and also wanted to thank you for voicing your support for these unusual ideas here. I hope that you will someday be able to reintroduce some tasty plants into your diet without suffering any symptoms. I'm down to about a half-dozen or so plant foods that don't seem to bother me much if at all. Unfortunately every time I try to put a new one back in, it seems to backfire:( Hope you're having a great weekend!
Keep up the good work. More and more people are at least curious about the benefits of the diet. I feel like a neighbor since I am only 100ish miles from you.
Stay well!!!! Bless you!
Would you mind telling us which vegetables you are able to tolerate? How often do you eat them? Thank you for all your presentations. Best regards, Olga
It would be good to know how we should evaluate the value of particular vegetables in our diet for best benefit. I am sure not every "let's reconsider" is based on emmissis or diahrea, though THAT should be an obvious red flag.
I would like to introduce maybe eggs or chicken in the future. which are the first steps? what about coffee and tea?
thank you so much
No grain
No sugar
Even as a child, I've always had trouble with constipation. After 20 years of LC eating, forcing lots of veggies (I always said I ate way more veggies when I started with Atkins than I ever did in my entire life), I ended up with diverticulitis. I've had one bad attack (in the hospital for 4 days) though wouldn't let them do surgery, and have had 2 or 3 mild attacks since. The last one was after trying to do a vegetarian version of keto (recommended by my alternative-care doc, who is vegan). You could have all of 1.5 oz of animal protein each day. Otherwise, it was lots of raw veggies. Within 5 days I had an attack serious enough for me to go to the regular doc for antibiotics. The PA there told me I had to load up on veggies to avoid diverticulitis, "bulk up the stool." HELLO???? You're not listening to me! That's how I got into this mess in the first place!
So, now I want to do keto, but with minimal veggies. Yet you say to keep the protein down, too. Can you provide a sample meal plan for an entire day so I can get some idea of how this can work? Thanks so much!