What fruits and vegetables looked like before
Before we humans domesticated fruit they were nowhere near as big or sweet. Check out these shocking examples of how familiar fruits used to look, just a few hundreds or thousands of years ago. Like the peach above that is 64 times bigger and sweeter too, more examples below.
Remember that when someone says that “humans have always eaten fruit”. That’s true, but it was not fruit like the ones we pick up at the grocery store today. That is superfruit, containing way more sugar than ever before… it’s candy from nature.
Personally I do eat a piece of fruit once in a while, as it tastes good and I’m happy with my weight and health and seem to be able to tolerate it. But if I wanted to lose weight without hunger I’d definitely cut back on it.
Here are more examples of how fruits and vegetables used to look like:
Banana – before and after
Carrot – before and after
Watermelon – before and after
The full article here:
Science Alert: Here’s what fruits and vegetables looked like before we domesticated them
More about fruit and weight control:
How to lose weight #7: Avoid fruit
The great Canadian cauliflower crisis
Even Wheat. Einkorn is the original wheat https://jovialfoods.com/einkorn/
Still not really low carb, but it makes real bread - something in moderation like fruit.
I have a hypothesis that plants bred for high yield and fast growth probably only lift the same quantities of minerals etc. from the soil but dilute the nutrients into a much greater volume of product.
Just to play devil's advocate: I recall reading an article about fruit by Denise Minger in which she asserts that there are in fact wild (hence unaffected by horticulture) varieties of fruit found today in certain parts of the world (e.g. Indonesia) which contain very high amounts of sugar, comparable to domesticated fruits today. So one could infer that consuming such a level of sugar (fructose, l guess) is safe and / or healthy somehow (perhaps the fiber in the fruit precludes an insulin spike somehow...?)
Can anyone supply me with good info?
I'm wondering if recent AFib is caused by this?
2) I live in northern Europe. Fruit season starts here in june/july (berries and cherries), goes over in august (plums) and ends in september/november (apples, pears). And that is after centuries of cultivation. If we were to look into hedgerows to find fruit that our ancestors would've consumed 4000 years ago, you'd have a few berries in summer/autumn, crab apples (small and very sour), rosehips and wild cherry, wild pear and wild plum (damson) in autumn. All of these fruits were small, far less sweet than any cultivar and very, very SEASONAL. Which leads to my last point:
3) What comes after autumn? Winter! And here in the north that means snow and no green food to speak of, let alone fruit.
Fruit, such as it was, was only available three months a year, right before five of the leanest months of the year (vegetable wise), since new green only started to come into bud somewhere in april. So from november 'till april, people had to rely on meat and fish that one caught and perhaps some dried roots/plants/fruits.
What I'm getting at is this: in those short months that carbs were available (even if the level of sugar is less than it is now), our rising bloodsugars and insulin would trigger fat storage for the lean time of winter and early spring. When winter came after that, the virtually all fat and meat diet would have us switch back again to burning fat. THIS IS WHY WE STORE CARBS AS FAT AND THIS IS WHY WE CRAVE THEM. Our bodies were evolved the way they were because high carb foods used to be sparse and seasonal.
Fruit is seasonal, nobody would eat any variety of fruit year round. So sugary fruits may be natural, but the time of year for actually eating them would be very limited--lets say, a month or so. Plus, you have to compete with the other wildlife that is eating them.... the actual yield of a wild fruit tree available to humans to consume would be a fraction, due to birds, primates, or other animals also consuming them.
Just food for thought.
It was repeated again on 2016 May 18 with a second author. (http://www.businessinsider.com/what-foods-looked-like-before-genetic-modification)
The initial author, Tanya Lewis, has a bachelor's degree in biomedical engineering and a graduate degree in science communication. (http://www.businessinsider.com/author/tanya-lewis). NO REFERENCES were cited supporting the claims.
I too have read Denise Minger's 2011 review of multiple studies showing the claims of the article are unfounded. I think the claims that ancient fruits have all been changed are false, and Diet Doctor perhaps ought to review including it, to at least add a disclaimer.
As a kid i spent most of my holidays with my grandparents in country. Our summer holidays used to be 3 months like you got bored by the end of it (whic was good) unlike now less than 2 months.
My grandparents lived pretty much as back in the olden days. They had electricity but EVERYTHING was manual labor and so to speak "natural". Food was strictly seasonal. In summer we had fruits and veggies, lots of broths, soups, caseroles, chicken. However in winter it was preserved meat (smoked pork) and pickled cabbage, cucumbers etc. They also ate mamaliga (farmed on their own land) which is very rich in minerals and healthy. My grandad used to say white bread was like cake. It was a rarity. Their fruits and veggies have never been modified in any way and neither sprayed. They also used cow manure to enrich the soil. I remember the tomatoes were so sweet and salty that there was no need for salt or any enhancers whatsoever. I never tasted a tomatoe like those ever after. Actually recently aome Romanians have found seeds from the past and planted them and everybody is amazed at the difference. All the veggies and fruits (no exception) in Australia are incomparably inferior to those we had as kids in Romania, no dispute hands down. We call these ones "plastic". No doubt people have been experimenting with grafting.
My grandma used to cook with lard in winter, couldn't afford the sunflower oil government rationed. Pork sausages were fried and stored in big lard jars of 5ks. If you think this was yuck you are dead wrong. Yummiest thing ever. She'd fry them with eggs. The other typical thing they had was slanina which is pig fat or bacon but with less meat. Fruits wise during winter, we had some apples which we called winter apples. They were hard as rock in autum but softened by winter. The story can go on but indeed a vegetarian lifestyle is complete bogus and unsustainable. Vegans are the biggest hypocrites on earth: "save the fish amd kill our babies". But more on that on a different occasion.
The watermelon one has been debunked so many times.
O.K. this doesn't come from a peer reviewed article but if you just google 'swirly watermelon' you'll find a lot of photos.
Also, your "before" carrot looks like ginseng.
I am an advocate for LCHF but this page is very misleading.
Your use of the word "theory" indicates a fundamental misunderstanding of science, so please refrain from attempting to make any sort of claim about these issues again.
To quote an article on The Scientific American website: "According to the National Academy of Sciences (NAS), a scientific theory is 'a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that can incorporate facts, laws, inferences, and tested hypotheses.' No amount of validation changes a theory into a law, which is a descriptive generalization about nature. So when scientists talk about the theory of evolution--or the atomic theory or the theory of relativity, for that matter--they are not expressing reservations about its truth."
Not sure what this means.
This is just obscenely mislead and I don't know where you got the idea. Our body's reaction to poisons ("toxins") is to denature it in the liver. That is why if you die of poisoning, the autopsy will reveal a heavily scarred liver.
Please do some actual research before posting drivel like this anywhere ever again!
Numbers 13:21-25 MSG
This statement shows that you do not understand science. In science, a "theory" is the most tested and testable idea of all - accept as fact. Examples include the theory of gravity and the germ theory of disease. Evolution is a fact. The word you may be seeking is "hypothesis." When a hypothesis has been thoroughly tested, it becomes a theory, which is the most accepted explanation of how things work. The idea that something is "just a theory" and therefore something to be ignored, just shows ignorance of the scientific method.
The idea that 'natural' is good and 'artificial' is bad is implicit in this article. Yet, that is the only way bad ideas survive: when they are half-noticed and not fully in the light.
If the author made the idea explicit, I'm sure many more readers would look at the 'old' carrot or peach, and say: "Well, I think I'd rather go for the artifical thing!"
I find a peach tree and I gorge on the fruit, sometimes 20 peaches( takes a few hours) because I know it will be one year before I get another chance.
If I get the chance to do this it means that I would normally not eat anything else for the day or longer or at least until I feel hungry which is normally a long time.
I have at least 10 locations where I can "raid" other people's trees after getting permission
I have a degree in agriculture , animal science and agribusiness , so I know how to manipulate agriculture the way I want it , into modern demand for food production. GMO will come back to haunt us. Most people forget , when you change , alter or manipulate an agricultural medium. There is a wait time for cause and effect , so for example 0 to 5 , 5 to 10 , 10 to 20 , 20 to 30 years and so on. Then clusters of health and disease issues start to show and present. We are already there at cause and affect, in the way we produce food and food production.
This is why I chose not to farm to cause harm.
Also , I think most commentators have missed one vital point in this forum. You can deny evolution all you like, but one undisputable fact remains. Humans were once plant , nuts and berry eaters Etc., when humans started to eat meat , we evolved. The human needed meat (protein to evolve the brain)
I challenge anyone on this forum , to intelligently explain how on earth , any of the food you eat today even closely resembles healthy nutritious wholesome food. That even closely resembles the food of 200 years ago , let alone a thousand years ago.
We have denigrated most of the soil types in the world , we use 70% of the fresh water resource's for agriculture ( we have the technology to reduce that by half right now , but we don't do it ? ) We chemically alter agriculture and livestock every day , when there is no need to do so. At the rate we using our resources we will be at critical crisis by 2050.
Something to think about when you next bite into an apple.
Since living in the Us, I started treasuring Romanian produce so much more...not many things taste “natural” in the US
"Department of Agriculture nutritional data from both 1950 and 1999 for 43 different vegetables and fruits, finding “reliable declines” in the amount of protein, calcium, phosphorus, iron, riboflavin (vitamin B2) and vitamin C over the past half century. "
25mm x 64 = 100mm?! Really?!
It's almost as if they randomly picked numbers out of the air that have nothing to do with any fact. I know that typos and errors happen, but this seems to be just completely unvetted and sloppy in the extreme.
Excuse me while I go eat my 4 meter tangerine!
25 mm= 2.5 cm which is about 1 inch.