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EventsDoctor: “no fat people in Auschwitz”
in Calorie counting 
Obesity treatment?
Here is yet another example of how prejudiced a physician can behave as a result of a calorie fixation. And how little it helps people with problems:
Worried patient was told “no fat people in Auschwitz” (Google translated from Swedish)
In summary a patient asked her doctor about possible medical causes for her weight gain. The doctor told her not to worry about such things. Weight gain was just a matter of how much food she ate. Then the doctor asked her if she had seen pictures from the concentration camp Auschwitz, and if she had seen any fat prisoners there.
I wonder if the doctor have said the same thing if the patient had become overweight due to a more obvious medical problem, for example cortisone treatment?
The sensible way to lose weight is to try to correct the causes of becoming overweight. Not to ignore the causes and count calories while desperately trying to ignore one’s hunger.
In other words: there’s a more natural, pleasant and smarter way to lose weight than playing concentration camp. Fortunately more and more people have realized that.
Have you ever met a similarly prejudiced doctor?
What a stupid doctor.
(On a serious note, the doctor does not adequately grasp that of course one can eat a below-maintenance level of Calories if there are no more Calories to eat, but where there are unlimited Calories available, that's a different matter entirely. These neurotransmitters, hormones, and genes? They really do have something to do with behaviour.)
They seem to think that prescribed chemicals 2 mg or 20 mg or 200 mg at a time ... are supposed to have more impact on us than what we eat 20 g at a time or 200 g, or even 2 Kg a day.
And not so much. 2 Kg a day of "this" vs. "that", over time, causes a significant difference.
Hepatitis C infection lowers cholesterol. Why take statins if you can find a dirty needle?
HIV/AIDS of course will become the cure for obesity, along with anorexia nervosa.
In fact, I have a great idea - Doctors can't prescribe concentration camps (at least under the current regime), but they can prescribe drugs.
Have you ever seen a fat speedfreak?
Hey, it worked in the 50s and 60s.
One would think that the fat ones would be those to survive, as they had the most energy storages, but no. Their bodies couldn't access the fat storages very efficiently (that's why they'd been plump before) and they probably succumbed in the hard labor, deceases and inhuman conditions before the thin fit ones.
a. To loose weight despite eating healthily and exercising
b. Why even when my ribs are sticking out do I still not fail into the BMI , height weight ratio
I have always been repeatly told that there were "No Fat People in Auschwitz" or a similar connotation.. so I was being treated like a liar and an addict. I adopted the low carb way of eating about a year ago yes it has help me to loose weight and I feel better for it , and I am happy to eat this way for the rest of my life, but its not going to take my Lipoedema away or all those years of mental turmoil where I blamed myself for doing something to my body. But hopefully it will allow my body to heal... as I started cutting out carbs I realised that my body has been intolerant to them in particular wheat and I recently realised my body doesnt like dairy either .. God help the next Dr that utters those words to me !!!.
I'm glad I gave myself permission to trust myself and become my own scientist. It has taken a long time, but I'm nearly there.
I had a binge last weekend (easter, another excuse and another sugar festival as Halloween is). Every time I do this and start eating LCHF again, it takes a shorter time to start feeling the benefits. I feel so calm, not hungry, clear headed and in control. Each time I return to LCHF after a binge it proves to me what this diet is; the right one.
Thanks everyone :)
Time to read up doctor and stop living in the time of the Nazis!
Soo.. the concentration exampel is more a proof of that CICO is not a valid explanation for anything.
It will be a few years before even half of the doctors out their recognize that LCHF is the magic bullet for some (but not all) folks.
Dont get me wrong but... I can understand the doc's point. Sometimes people want some pills-solution, aspirin like solution, some easy-to-go solution. They do not want to listen if it means to do some change of lifestyle. It can be very annoying to listen to it day after day.
It is not a docs fault. Usually these people do not get obese during one evening or event during one year. Even if you offer to them some kind of solution they usually do not follow it ( I am not for counting calories, not at all, I am on LCHF, but you can not dismiss that there are other ways how to lose fat or weight and these worked - even if it means to struggle for the rest of people's life , there are hardly manageable for long time but still it is better then nothing ). Obesity is a big problem, we all know that, but it is not the doc's fault that people want to manage this issue usually when it is almost too late, it is getting harder with every kg of fat. Do not forget that 85-90% of cases of obese people is caused by their lifestyle. That is what we know for sure or nobody dismissed that so far
I am not dismissing that his "parable" is ethical. It is not. But do not forget that it is not the doc's lifestyle that should be changed.
At least the doctors who believe in high-carbohydrate and the "a Calorie is a Calorie" mantra can do arithmetic.
In my own experience (in British Columbia, Canada), when I said I am eating a high-fat, low-carbohydrate diet, the three medical doctors I said that to, to my surprise, didn't object. I got the distinct feeling at least two of the three approved, but didn't recommend it proactively for whatever reason: perhaps unwillingness to go out on a limb, perhaps just general uncertainty over which diet is right, perhaps concern that I might not be able to stick to it (that's an issue I'm working on).
Who knows? But none so far have balked at me for using the words "high fat". People in other professions --- both medical and non-medical --- have ... but not the doctors so far.
Now, if the doc tries to claim it was HIS advice that led to my success I'll have to correct him :)
This doctor is a crypto-nazi!
Outside of the Low-Carb Cruise (coming up again in only 3 weeks!), I have only met 2 MDs who where not similarly prejudiced.
And *neither* of them were at the VA medical center.
My GP and GY/OB nurse (they don't work together) both told me they read nutritional blogs, and my dentist is on Atkins after giving birth to her doter. All my doctors support my LC diet, one of the reasons is they saw how my health and all health markers dramatically turned for the best. GY nurse told me some of her patients with hot flashes got relieve by severely reducing carbs in their diets.
People not blind and death, and doctors are just people like me and you.
I've now moved to Germany and although bread is still a huge staple in the average diet, my GP is fully on board with LCHF. Although media is as bad with High Carb Low Fat as anywhere else in Europe.
It has been my personal experience that calorie/sugar intake is in fact the key to weight loos in the vast majority of human beings.