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EventsWill LCHF work long-term? Say, after four years?
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Does LCHF work long-term? The answer is usually yes – assuming, of course, you really do eat accordingly long-term. Should you return to your previous food habits, you’ll also eventually return to your previous weight – just like with any other diet.
One man who’s kept to a very strict low-carbohydrate diet non-stop for four years is Tommy Runesson. Above is his amazing weight graph. It shows a steep decline of around 200 lbs for 1.5 years, and then a smoother stabilization period approaching normal weight. Today, his weight has been stable for around 2.5 years.
An LCHF diet won’t normally make you underweight, as long as you eat your fill. Instead, it helps most people (but not all) lose their excess weight.
Here is Tommy Runesson’s update after four years: 4 years and -200lbs (Google translated from Swedish)
Does LCHF work long-term for you?
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Here's your scale, I have it, it does indeed show tenths
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As a general comment I agree that it is not worth the fuss: as having tracked my own weight closely I have seen how it can vary by a couple of pounds in the course of just a single day.
But I also don't see any harm in being precise, if you have precise numbers. I certainly don't see it as any need to look down on someone and make disparaging remarks about them as you did.
What else should we round? Blood Glucose numbers? Cholesterol levels? If my BG meter, or lab reports them with decimals places then I tend to record them as such.. why not?
And why on earth would someone on a diet forum report their weight in tenths of a pound unless it WAS a conversion? Isn't it normally pounds and ounces?
Indeed so, and equally ridiculous. Just a glass of water can make a difference either way, of whether they peed recently or did not. My person concern (and am hugely fat) is that the pounds will go down on the scale, but body will go up! When that happens, you have nowhere else to go. Look in the mirroir, and if you like what you see, that's what counts, Scale is fine, but not to ridiculous obsess with ounces.
Indeed so, and equally ridiculous. Just a glass of water can make a difference either way, of whether they peed recently or did not. My person concern (and am hugely fat) is that the pounds will go down on the scale, but body will go up! When that happens, you have nowhere else to go. Have been 170 lbs, vs 370, at one time or another, and STILL blimplike. To the devil with the scale, it is a mocker. Look in the mirroir, and if you like what you see, that's what counts. Or at least don't get heart palpitations or otherwise ruin your day because the scale shows 2 ounces. The diet forums are full of such nonsense.
On the other hand it is very very hard to not lose weight when your waist measure drops. To avoid further confusion from natural daily variations simply measure once a week and spend the gained time on walks, for instance.
Finally it is worth pointing out that "BMI" is one of the most useless measures that exists, nearly as bad as total cholesterol. BMI make no distinction as per above, and also athletes with large chest, muscles and very little fat easy get "too high" BMI....
Both total cholesterol and BMI add up bad and good or harmless numbers and doctors still daily state the more the worse; a gross indictment that current main stream medicine is off badly course.
If you have a block about reducing calories to that level then you have your answer. Get over the mental block and you'll lose weight.
" Short term fat feeding (FF) caused a ∼3-fold increase in liver triglyceride and total fatty acyl-CoA content without any significant increase in visceral or skeletal muscle fat content. Suppression of endogenous glucose production (EGP) by insulin was diminished in the FF group, despite normal basal EGP and insulin-stimulated peripheral glucose disposal. "
The combination of fat and sugar is also in the low carb community regarded as a the very worst, as fast-carb initiated insulin spikes cause both fat and sugar to be stored as excess calories, god knows what goes into AT and what goes into liver fat, while the following BS drop cause renewed hunger instead of the long term satiety caused by fat alone.
The LC carbs must be slow like from salads and few vegetables!
Chris MasterJohn has written several pieces on the subject of "high fat rat chows" finding they are usually not what the name would advertise! I recall that also transfats have been found in high fat chows! Otherwise transfats have been found included in studies proving the health hazards of saturated fats.
http://blog.cholesterol-and-health.com/2011/04/let-us-honor-ancel-key...
I'm sorry you are struggling. I know from experience it is not easy. I've been on HFLC in varying forms off and on for 10 years (I'm 31). Currently, I use it to treat a number of ailments: PCOS (an insulin-related hormonal disorder), mental health, food intolerances, and an autoimmune disease. I have a very hard time losing, but love the energy inducing, anti-inflammatory, hormonal and food intolerance effects. I eat LC primal, but with dairy only very rarely (due to the intolerance). A few things have helped me recently. I started intermittent fasting through breakfast (as a woman this is 14 hour fast 10 hour eating window; for men 16 hour fast and 8 hour eating window is recommended) Then at 12:00 p.m., I eat 2/3 of my lunch (meat, veg, olive oil), then eat the other 1/3 at 3 and a normal dinner then a little bit of dessert (dark choc, PB). I also recommend evaluating yourself for food intolerances. This means no gluten, eggs, dairy, soy, and limited nuts, high histamine foods, and nightshades (autoimmune) for me. I mostly used food trials to figure this out but ELISA assays also confirmed the intolerances I knew were present (although a few false positives appeared too). I hope these ideas help you and I hope that low carb helps you feel better, even if it isn't helping you lose weight right now.
I notice that Buzz is on 2000 calories a day ? I think that's over 8000 kj a day. That'll be why you are finding it hard :( my 5100 kj equates to roughly 1200 calories p/d although I know I could be stricter on my self. I do sneak some dark chocolate and I have too much coke zero.. but its still working for me. and because of these "naughty" things I Allow myself im not tempted to blow my new way of living... I wish everyone the best with their meals.
I've found a few little naughty treats that help me
Atkins bars - caramel nut chew bar. 2g carbs
Aeroplane Jelly Lite - no carbs and only 29 kj
I have a sweetner called Norbu made from Monk Fruit.
Coke zero - 0.4g carbs per 375ml can
does anyone else have some things they have found?
Try eliminating dairy for a month. For some people this can make all the difference.
Kind regards!
Laura
Theres even a problem with scientific studys.. people on high fat diet seems to eat less.. by them self.. but control groups on higher carbs have to be limited!
And then.. people with no sens of apetite/self control of eating can be eating to much or too litle for a grown up person.. then we have to say to those to eat more or less.
Its about that fat should be high of ones energy demand.. but people dont know there energy demand!
I am sorry that you have not seen weight loss. Here is our guide to breaking weight loss stalls that you may find helpful.
https://www.dietdoctor.com/how-to-lose-weight/break-a-stall
We also have a 10 week Weight Loss for Good course.
https://www.dietdoctor.com/how-to-lose-weight/10-weeks