A diet of steak, bacon and water – why techies are turning to ‘carnivory’

Sirloin steaks on the bbq

Could living on a diet of meat and water only be the key to better health? The tech community is known for its out-of-the-box thinking – and that certainly applies to eating. Now they’re turning steak into the “new salad”.

Some techies swear by this so-called carnivorous diet as a way to ramp up the positive effects of a keto diet.

The cryptocurrency community has experienced an emergent surge of unusual diets. A popular option is the ketogenic diet, which entails eating lots of fat, moderate protein, and very few carbs. But some people go farther than keto: They only consume meat, a practice known as carnivory. Y’know, like wolves and lions and such. The carnivores say they’re modeling their habits on what humans evolved to eat, like a more extreme version of the paleo diet.

Inc: Steak is the new salad: why these techies are embracing an all-meat diet

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23 comments

  1. P Jones
    I went meat only after being Keto. Better health benefits for me. I am highly insulin resistant so any plant matter affects me badly.
  2. K Johnson
    I had been low carb/keto for two years for health (T2D, dysautonomia) and weight loss. I moved to pure carnivore three months ago and my joint pain disappeared in the first few weeks and several other issues are steadily improving. Blood work is looking good, and I feel better than I have since the onset of illness four years ago. (I had been vegan for the five years prior to that.) I eat primarily grass fed beef, some eggs, occasional bacon, and butter.
  3. Carolyn Jorgensen Potter
    I have been keto for many years. I am in perfect health and keep my weight down. I have noticed that the less veggies I eat, the better. I stay fuller longer and I lose more weight. If my husband was not constantly bringing veggies home, I would have no problem being a meat-only person.
  4. angelo lazzara
    I'm wondering about the effects of meat on potential prostate cancer...so far i'm okay but i've read articles that compare too much meat to getting a tumor...any information that anyone else has would be helpful to me...thanks
  5. Erik Peers
    Red meat is vilified in the press however I have not seen one valid study that shows causality. If eating hamburgers correlates with cancer the confounding variables are the bun, the fries, associated alcohol, smoking.
  6. Prelipceanu Alexandra
    This is so desperate. The article is poorly made, simply subjective, no scientific arguments only a futile attempt at maintaining the ongoing mass manipulation. Just by reading the website's name "DietDoctor" I lost all interest in reading anything else. The classic medical field is financed by the farmaceutical industry. That means, in simple terms, that you need "doctors" to give bad advice to pacients so that there are more ill people to buy more pills until they get so sick that they need medical treatments and the cycle is kept alive. I am trying to contain myself and not start to mention the comments on this article. I've never thought I'd ever see someone say "the less veggies I eat, the better" You people are what's wrong with the world. For those of you that are struggling with these kinds of ignorants, stay calm. All evil in this world is soon to collapse from the inside. In the past 2 years I've noticed more and more desperate attempts at keeping society stupid but it doesn't work anymore. A lot of us have removed the blinders. I can only laugh at this and wish the rest of you much strength and pacience. The madness is going to end soon.
    Replies: #7, #9, #10
  7. Nick S
    This comment is the only information i found that make sense in this so called "article". Indeed it is a desperate attempt at misinforming and further confusing people.
    Thank you for your input,
    Alexandra.
  8. Rajeev S
    Zero carbs. Zero problems. Carbs cause cancer, heart disease, obesity and diabetes.
    Reply: #20
  9. Paul Mack
    Yes ignorance is here, but it's with you. If you know anything about this site, which I doubt you do, you would see it is very much against the current system of ill health and false truths about nutrition. You do realize that people thrive on the ketogenic diet, including myself. I do eat veggies and lots of them, and I do eat meat.

    This is so desperate. The article is poorly made, simply subjective, no scientific arguments only a futile attempt at maintaining the ongoing mass manipulation. Just by reading the website's name "DietDoctor" I lost all interest in reading anything else. The classic medical field is financed by the farmaceutical industry. That means, in simple terms, that you need "doctors" to give bad advice to pacients so that there are more ill people to buy more pills until they get so sick that they need medical treatments and the cycle is kept alive. I am trying to contain myself and not start to mention the comments on this article. I've never thought I'd ever see someone say "the less veggies I eat, the better" You people are what's wrong with the world. For those of you that are struggling with these kinds of ignorants, stay calm. All evil in this world is soon to collapse from the inside. In the past 2 years I've noticed more and more desperate attempts at keeping society stupid but it doesn't work anymore. A lot of us have removed the blinders. I can only laugh at this and wish the rest of you much strength and pacience. The madness is going to end soon.

    Reply: #11
  10. FowlTemptress
    LOL, how histrionic. Keep laughing, lady. We'll have the last laugh in the end.
  11. Prelipceanu Alexandra
    Where exactly in my comment does it imply that I'm against YOUR description of eating, quote " I do eat veggies and lots of them, and I eat meat". Have you not read the title of this article? "A diet of steak, bacon and water." Who on earth has ever thrived on consuming just that? Hence my affirmation about it being desperate and absurd. You speak about me being ignorant yet you couldn't even insert my statements into the context of THIS exact article. It doesn't say anywhere about "eating lots of veggies" which I agree with. Your affirmations are irrelevant to my previous statements. I do however agree with you about the fact that I didn't take the time to research this website, the reason for that has already been expressed. I had no interest in it after reading this article and scrolling through and further seeing titles such as eating at fastfoods. My reaction might've been biased by these few observations. I assume everyone reading my comment to be capable of realizing that I mostly expressed my astonisment upon reading this particular webpage. Which I still find ridiculous.

    I only wish health and happiness to people and I couldn't allow myself to not say anything about it since I've seen many dear ones pass away from allegedly "doctor adivice". Otherwise it doesn't affect me as I am capable of maintaining a healthy body and mind for myself. That was my only interest in writing that comment.
    ps: english is not my mother tongue, excuse any grammar mistakes I might've made.

    Reply: #12
  12. Isaac
    Why is it ridiculous? Ask yourself why you are so certain in your beliefs about diet that you can instantly deride this article. Vegetables are obviously good for us right? Why is that exactly? Why are you so solidly convinced? Have you experimented and tried NOT eating vegetables? Was your health considerably worse? Or is it that lots of people say that vegetables do us good and have said so for such a long while that it simply must be true and anybody who says different is ridiculous?

    It has been said that any new idea must pass through three stages. First, it is ridiculed; second, it is subject to argument: third, it is accepted. You are at stage 1. Take the time to read some of the information on this website and you might progress. If your mind is open to it.

  13. star
    Vegan...... she's a vegan..
  14. Kaye
    Talk about judging a book by it's cover. The opinion of someone who hasn't even bothered to do any research into an idea isn't worth the time taken to read it.

    I'm T2D with Crohns disease. This way of eating has probably saved my life, well at least enabled me to look forward to a healthy future. My first port of call has been DietDoctor for the past few years where I have found a lot of good advice and support.

  15. Anne
    I just accidentally discovered this youtube video. I watched before I realized it was sponsored by a VEGAN site. Funny thing is - EVERY scientific point they make actually backs up every argument FOR a Keto Diet!! Enjoy LOL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU2ByJ-zxfg
  16. Alan C Strauss
    I tried the Atkins diet years ago eating lots of meat, fish, eggs and low carb cheese and very few vegetables. I became so constipated I thought I was going to die. I now eat lots of fiber and try to eat low calorie. I feel good but can't lose any weight!
    Reply: #19
  17. Prelipceanu Alexandra
    The level of ignorance and lack of common sense of some of you is astonishing. Have you been living in Plato's cave all your life? Literally every study that has ever been published that promotes the american diet is funded by the egg, meat or dairy industry.
    Along with those corporate dietary guidelines came the increase of heart disease, cancers, strokes and the rest of the top 15 leading causes of death.

    How stupid does one have to be in order to question the validity of the health benefits of a blant based diet. Humans have consumed meat, eggs and dairy and we've seen the otcome. Also, non-industry funded studies show that people who include more fibre and live whole foods into their diet have shown a significant improvement in their health, even reversing the top 3 killers of americans (though it's apllicable to the rest of the globe's population)
    Even Dr. Stork now recommends a plant based diet, after failing to debunk "What The Health" documentary. Which is respectable. Others prefer to choose dirty profit
    instead of health.

    I'd suggest researching the work of the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine.
    Also, for every individual who's interested in health and nutrition, I say it's imperative to watch Dr. Michael Greger's research in the "Uprooting the Leading Causes of Death" (https://youtu.be/30gEiweaAVQ)

    He donates all profits from books and other means, to charity and has saved many lives with the help of a healthy diet, including mine and continues to do so.

    It's 2018. If you believe that eating nothing but steak and bacon is healthy (not even hunter gatherers did so) you're retarded. There's just no decent way of wording it.

    Replies: #21, #22
  18. Debragail
    Wow!!!! Alexandra you sound really scared and threatened? maybe have a healthy dose of red meat to calm yourself down before you have a heart attack!!
  19. Bacon Eater
    Try supplementing with a good dose of magnesium once a day. I like these: https://www.amazon.com/Nature-Made-High-Potency-Magnesium/dp/B00LE27M40 . It will take your stomach a week or two to adjust, but your problem will be solved!
  20. Maria
    I presume you mean no starchy carbs of potatoes, rice, grain, pasta and bread - and sugar - when you say carbohydrates?? Green leafy veg and anything that is grown above ground is allowed and I do eat them. There is also the whole aspect of socialising and travelling. If you do neither and live alone and don't socialise except on here, fine. Thanks Rajeev.
  21. Maria
    I'm not American but British. But I would say a diet of bacon and steak is just plain stupid. Where is the fish and where are the vegetables you can eat tgat are grown above ground? You can out potoates, grain, pasta, rice and bread, and all high in sugar fruits. But this way of life is not a no-carb diet, and it's not a means for the zealous righteous on here to use the forum to preach at everyone as experts and turn it all into another religion - meat as God and veg as the Devil!! The rxperts are the DietDoctor and his colleagues, and my own London-based nutritionist who is very well known at home and abroad and introduced me to the DietDoctor. Ibspeak as a meat and fish eater, abd yet there are plenty of recipes on this site that require no meat, fish or eggs at all, and so by no means just a diet of steak and bacon!
  22. Marius Nel
    I have been eating meat only for the last six months and have been in communication with others that have been Carnivores only for over 20 years. The longest living carnivore I know of, has been carnivore for over 40 years and is now in her 70's

    The assumptions that were made here are all wrong. There is no constipation for me. there are no nutrient deficiencies, there are no emotional hang ups. The simple truth is I suffered from functional dyspepsia, and I was on the keto diet for many years which helped keep in under some semblance of control. However, since I switched to a carnivore lifestyle, which you call stupid, I have had no pain, I have seen an increase in mental clarity, I feel ten times better, I have more energy, and my strength has increased dramatically.

    Best of all I have not used any supplements for the last 6 months, and my health is really great. The symptoms of dyspepsia are practically non-existent.

    Just a word for Prelipceanu Alexandra. You spew your religion as if it is the alpha and omega of life on earth, yet you have no idea what you are talking about. All vegans do the same, they cackle like hens but do not consider reality, and you sadly fall in the same category, a troll. You have never had to live in the wild, where there are no supplements, which VEGANS MUST take, yet you cry about industries lying to keep us hooked on their products. Really, meat has been around for as long as we have, yet pharmacies and their products which you must support to stay healthy, has only been around for a short time.

    I lived off the land for a year, in the Southern African bush as an anti-poaching officer with a Khoi Bushman as my tracker. I ate off the land like our ancestors did, and I can tell you that there are none of the vegetables and fruits you find in the shops there. To assume the hunter gatherers ate like you do is deluded. I can honestly tell you, that there are and never were any vegans in the African bush, you cannot survive as a pure vegan in the wild. You suggest a life of fruit and veg because you can go to the shops and buy them to hearts delight.

    The reality though, is that in your own country, 98% of all the vegetables and fruit that is available to eat right now, is not there naturally and as a vegan would not have been available to you, therefore your lifestyle is not naturally sustainable. YOU are absolutely dependent on the farming industry, and the big pharma to supply you with your “healthy lifestyle.”

    So please get over your judgmental self. If you want to be a vegan, by all means, be one, and tell people how great you feel because of it, but for goodness sake don't assume that your style of eating is absolute, because it isn't. Coming into a forum and calling people stupid and retarded because they found something that gives them relief and a good standard of living shows your religious vegan bias and your total inability to let others live their lives in peace. It also diminishes the relevance of your conversation. Rather than being so arrogant and insulting, you should be ashamed of yourself. Life and people are so much more than your vegan philosophy.

    Bottom line, I am a carnivore and my life is so much better for it, and no hateful insulting nonsense you or anyone else spews will change that. I wish you great health and joy in your vegan lifestyle, do you think you can be big enough and wish those of us ( The three groups I am a member of has over 30 000 members - each with their own story like mine and many of them many years carnivore) that found an answer for our unique situations in the carnivore way of eating.

    Do I espouse this way of eating as the alpha and omega? No not at all. My philosophy is and always will be, test everything, and hold to what works to give you the best health and happiness, - and for you, take note of the last part, - and allow other to do the same.

  23. Adrienne
    Nicely said, Marius. To call people names ("stupid") in ANY conversation is hostile and demeaning. To live peacefully together, we need to help each other learn and understand - not tear each other down or create barriers. I have, at different times in my life, been vegan, LCHF, keto, and am now leaning into meat-only. I have learned a lot in each phase.

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