Starvation can cure type 2 diabetes

A new study shows that starvation (eating 600 kcal/day) can cure type 2-diabetes, just like gastric bypass surgery.

Again, there is no need to explain the effect of the surgery with other speculative theories. The resulting starvation reverses diabetes. And the starvation isn’t even necessary to do that.

Guardian: Low-calorie diet offers hope of cure for type 2 diabetes

Unnecessary starvation

If a type 2 diabetic stops eating (carbs) the symptoms of diabetes starts to go away. But starvation or surgery are unnecessarily painful ways to do it.

Luckily diabetics can eat real food to satiety, as long as they avoid sugar and starch. The food that quickly turns into simple sugars in the gut. Cutting away their stomach or starving themselves is not necessary.

All they need is good food.

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28 Comments

  1. And decapitation is an effective way to get rid of the organ with the highest content of cholesterol ;-)
  2. Peggy Holloway
    I would like to see "Type II Diabetes" removed from the medical lexicon or at least reclassified. I don't consider it a "disease" to be "cured," but a symptom, along with obesity, high blood pressure, coronary artery disease, etc. of the underlying condition of insulin resistance/carbohydrate intolerance. That condition cannot be cured, in most cases, but the symptoms can be prevented and reversed. Certainly gastric bypass and starvation will eliminate high blood glucose as a symptom of carbohydrate intolerance just as you have been reporting. I completely agree that those are drastic and miserable ways to do so when we know that there is a simple and healthy way. It is amazing that the medical community would promote those two methods for treating "type II" but rant and rave about the dangers of HFLC diets.
    Now, all of that said, my lovely sister would disagree adamantly with most of what I have written. My brother, sister, and I all went low-carb 11 years ago. My sister is the only one of us who had received the dreaded diagnosis of "Type II Diabetes,' which she still fully accepts as a disease for which is being seen regularly, with blood tests and medications. For whatever reason that I cannot fathom, the low-carb diet has not controlled her blood sugar. Although she is not grossly obese, in spite of the diet and exercise, she still carries alot of abdominal fat and I would expect her waist size would put her in the category of obese. She tried going off Januvia for 3 months and her A1C was 12! She has high fasting blood sugars, usually around 150, although if has so much as a cold it can be above 200. It does drop during the day, and she says it doesn't really matter what she eats.
    This is a conundrum and is really messing with my belief that "Type II" is not a disease and is an easily managed symptom! Of course, my real concern is for my sister. She has good cholesterol readings and doesn't seem to be having any of the other complications associated with the "disease," but I'm concerned that at age 60, if this isn't resolved, she may begin to have other problems.
    I'm always open to suggestions from forum readers about this dilemma.
    She is going to see Dr. Mary Vernon. I'm hoping that Dr. Vernon can figure out why she hasn't responded to the low-carb diet.
    Reply: #20
  3. Chris Buck
    As a personal trainer, I have had two clients who have type II.
    One has no symptoms anymore after being 100% compliant with my recommendations - no starches, moderate saturated fat, high monosaturated fats, high quality protein. It took three months for his turn around. The other is 80 and is so
    bound to the American culture of eating grains, he is struggling with it.
    When he is compliant, he is great. He and his wife just have a hard time with the concept of lunch without a sandwich, breakfast without bread, cereal, or oatmeal, dinner without bread, corn, rice, and so on.
    The 35 yr old brother of a friend no longer has it due to the moderate to high fat / high protein way of eating. No starches, no grains, only true, green leafy vegetables, and the high fiber part of the diet is always eaten first. That means start with a salad with high fat dressing, no croutons, no fruit - you get the picture. It works. Those who have poor results may need to look more carefully at what they eat. You can innocently make a lot of mistakes, particularly if you purchase any sort of pre-packaged food, or eat at restaurants often.
  4. Milton
    I don't think that type 2 Diabetes needs to be reclassified, I think that our understanding of what causes it needs to be free of politics and money. We have some ideas as to how it is caused, and we know that people have managed to reverse it via diet, but that research is polluted in the same way that research into heart disease is. The money and influence are too great for this change to occur as quickly as it should, but I think it will happen over time.

    Unfortunately, we will never really know the scale of the damage being done by the promotion of diets low in fat and cholesterol and high in carbs, grains, sugar and vegetable oils, to say nothing of statin usage. The number of people who have had their lives ruined or shortened by bad diet/health information must be staggering. I'm glad that there are those who are trying to make a dent in it.

  5. Margaretrc
    Peggy, I am glad your sister is going to Dr. Mary Vernon, who has had great success treating patients with type II diabetes (or insulin resistance or whatever you want to call it) with a very low carb diet. I suspect that the reason the diet hasn't worked for her so far is she may not be low carb enough. Perhaps, as Chris said, she is getting more carbs than she realizes--possibly in the form of hidden sugar, judging by the fact that you say she has significant abdominal fat. Anyway, I am sure Dr. Vernon will figure it out and help her reach success.

    As for the article in the Guardian--such rubbish! It's not even a good study, with only 11 subjects. And I certainly the effects won't be long lasting as no one can stay on such a starvation diet for long. One can only hope they figure out or learn the truth that you all know! Keep spreading the word, Doc. Thank you.

    Per, so true!LOL And Milton, well said!

  6. "When I was on Jimmy Moore’s podcast this May, I estimated that the numbers in the USA for type two diabetes were north of 150 million people. The reason behind my beliefs is that the way in which we diagnose type two diabetes is outdated. Via current clinical methods, by the time someone is diagnosed with Type 2 #diabetes 50% of their beta cells are already destroyed." Dr. Jack Kruse http://goo.gl/MAhVU
  7. I have personal experience with having completely healed from severe diabetes, its complications, and other 'incurable' diseases. The severe diabetes I had was a combination of Type 1 and Type 2 as well as other sub-varieties that the medical system does not want you to know about.
    In 2008, when I first began to post my thoughts, many diabetic discussion groups refused to allow other diabetics to know of my accomplishment. They interpreted my story as nothing more than a version of a snake-oil salesman selling something!
    In a normal world, successes similar to mine are usually celebrated. But in a world where the diabetes/medical industry keeps diabetics chained much like prisoners in jail, my fellow diabetics work extra hard to keep my achievement suppressed. Everyone believes the lie that this disease is truly incurable! Little do they realize that by believing in the lie, this is a sure-fire recipe for their continued enslavement. If you are ready to break the mold, then please join me in my efforts to inspire and give some real hope to others. I have amassed over 200 years of research in a little period of just over three and half years. In a tumultuous sea of deception, my website stands as a beacon of light. When you read my Logic of Healing, you will quickly realize that it surpasses the edicts and the false logic of the medical industry: http://www.TruthVisionary.com
  8. Chase
    "Peggy":
    I've only been eating a LCHF diet for 11 days. Several months before this I stopped taking my Metformin to control my sugars. The reason: I had been eating the diet that my doctor had suggested, that I had read up on while searching online: Complex carbs, whole grains, no sugar, portion control and exercise to lose weight etc. The drugs only kept my levels between 200-30 fasting or not, and never consistent. I was still ‘out of control’ even when doing everything I had been told to do by ‘experts’. My doctor’s only suggestion was to up my dosages. I said no way, there has to be something else because nothing is getting better even when I follow your rules. He didn't appreciate my opinion and told me I would get sicker and die faster if I didn't accept a new prescription. On drugs and a 'diabetic diet' I had trouble sleeping, I was tired all day, and I lost very little weight even with increased exercise. I was irritable and depressed, my work performance was declining since I couldn't keep up because I was so tired and my family was worried sick about me. When I stopped the drugs I started taking vitamins. I followed a self made regimen from research that I did (layman’s amateur research) and as far as energy and mood I actually felt better within 2 days of starting, but my sugars were staying at 250-300 all the time. I stumbled across an Edutainment Documentary ‘Fat Head’ and was truly shocked by the evidence that it provided for a LCHF diet. It made complete sense to me and so like I said, 11 days ago I started eating ‘right’. I found The Diet Doctor through the ‘Fat Head’ website and here I am. My sugars haven’t come down to where they should be, but it’s only been 11 days. However, I feel great! I have more energy, my mood is significantly improved and although my sugar levels are high (and coming down daily) all of the symptoms I had been experiencing are gone. Of course I am not a medical professional, but like has been said above; your sister may be eating hidden sugars. Whole milk and cream are great, but high in lactose (sugar) for someone trying to come down. Fruits and veggies are great, but until sugars are in control and the body is working properly again, it may be a good idea to go ‘no carb’ until progress is made with glucose control. I don’t know if she takes vitamins or supplements, but it could also be of great worth to investigate high dosage vitamin therapy. But I’m not an orthomolecular (natural) physician or a nutritionist, just a new convert to the right way of thinking and I am passionately involved. God bless, and hopefully your sister will improve.
  9. cathy
    what can you have for meals that's filling if you stop potatoes,rice and pasta
  10. Dana
    Cathy: Those foods are not filling. They might satisfy your addiction to them (yes, those foods are addicting) but that's about it. Fat is what's filling--it sets off a chemical satiety response in your GI tract.

    Peggy: Is your sister getting enough choline in her diet? There seems to be some pretty good evidence that choline-deprived people are more likely to have type 2 diabetes and heart disease because they tend to have fatty liver disease which is associated with both conditions. And you can have non-alcoholic fatty liver disease without having elevated liver enzymes--in fact, researchers estimate that most people with NAFLD have normal enzymes.

    The two best dietary sources of choline (the supplements are not universally considered safe) are beef liver and egg yolk. Of course, we are now discouraged by "conventional wisdom" from eating either food to any great degree.

    Dietary requirement for adults is somewhere between 400-500mg of choline daily. You can probably achieve that eating a few ounces of liver two or three times a week, and if you don't like liver, increase egg consumption. Another thing you can do is increase betaine consumption as well--if I'm not mistaken, from what I've read, betaine has a choline-sparing effect. Spinach is one good source of that nutrient. If you google either one you'll find all sorts of info.

    If her liver enzymes are normal, NAFLD is diagnosable by MRI. If she's got central obesity she should probably ask her doctor to check. Good luck.

    P.S. Yes, she should still eat low-carb, and particularly avoid fructose, which aggravates NAFLD, especially if she's not eating enough choline.

  11. Ray
    "Again, there is no need to explain the effect of the surgery with other speculative theories. The resulting starvation reverses diabetes. And the starvation isn’t even necessary to do that."

    It is frequently reported (and is reported in the comments above) that certain individuals apparently do not respond to low carb diets. An argument can be made that they are 'cheating' and consuming carbs, or perhaps more likely their body takes longer to normalize than is typical. In cases such as this, modulating the timing of food intake could be added to the low carb therapy, starting with intermittent fasting (e.g. 19 to 24 hour fasts).

    If this is not immediately successful, longer term fasts of 3 - 7 days might accelerate the healing process. Once complete, the fast could be broken and the low carb therapy resumed.

    I will point out that individuals have been on intermittent fasting protocols for years and have reported that this eating style is easy to maintain. Therefore, it is clear that this eating style can be permanently adopted if necessary.

  12. Steve
    2 weeks ago I was diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. Due to stress, poor diet choices and being about 15 kilos overweight, as well as being addicted to coffee, I ended up in hospital with a heart rate of 145 (atrial flutter) and blood glucose in the 16-21 range.
    I was kept on a heart rate monitor and small doses of insulin and beta blockers were prescribed while doctors conducted a number of tests on my heart. No major abnormalities were found. I felt like I was on a conveyor belt to hell.

    There were a steady stream of dieticians, diabetes advisors and specialists there to console and reinforce my diagnosis of a chronic disease, all in that nagging and patronizing tone dripping with sincerity and condolences.

    Instinctively, I basically stopped eating, other than for perhaps a small container of vegetable soup or a single slice of wholemeal bread and some vegetables. After a week in hospital I was discharged, having lost almost 5 kilograms in a short time.

    I found the University of UK article and additionally read carefully the scientific paper which was downloadable in PDF form. I studied as much about diabetes Type 2 as possible. My primary interest is not really in "managing" my condition, but in reversing it. I immediately began the same program, even imitating the type of diet shake used in the Newcastle University Study. (Optifast)

    At the same time, I contacted the Diabetes authorities to see if a similar trial was being conducted in Australia. I was emailed the following day by a researcher from Sydney Uni whose first sentence moved to dismiss and minimize the UK research. She then offered to include me in a "drug trial" being conducted by the University. I replied that I wasn't very enthusiastic, but attached the PDF file of the Uni Newcastle research, which is a scholarly and well researched piece. I have had no reply in return.

    The idea that a VLCD might reverse Type 2 Diabetes would seem to be bad for business if you are a large pharmaceutical company or a cog in the wheel of the health industry.

    Over the last week my blood sugars have returned to a level where my fasting sugar is 4.6 and post meal is less than 6, which is completely normal. The diet is indeed harsh. I'm taking several weeks off work, which I think is a worthwhile investment in my long term health. I'm trying to rest and keep my environment as stress free as possible.

    My program is to swim about a kilometre a day, at a gentle pace. I have a rowing machine and take a morning walk. I take an Optifast diet shake at around 6-7 am, then another at 12. Around 3pm I have a bowl of non starchy vegetables like asparagus, capsicum, baby spinach, tomato, celery, avocado with a garnish of a teaspoon of organic flaxseed oil. I add a sprinkle of black chia seeds.

    I've added a single high grade multivitamin tablet and a Bilberry tablet to my morning shake. My heart beat has been fully normalized since discharge from the hospital, however one day I took 2 x 500mg Ginseng tablets which gave me additional energy but seemed to cause a rapid heart rate that evening. I immediately stopped taking Ginseng.

    Apart from the total normalization of my blood glucose without medication, I've noticed that my previously blurry distance vision has become completely sharp and in focus. Unfortunately, I seem to have to use reading glasses all the time, which was not the case before.

    This type of diet, if initiated on a large scale, would probably require additional support from a government agency. Not only because it makes regular work difficult, but personal intervention would make it less austere for participants.

    My overwhelming instinct, as supported by the results of the UK trial and now my own experiences, are that Type 2 Diabetes is eminently reversible.

  13. Karen okamoto
    I am diabetic. I weigh 165 lbs, and am 5 feet 6 inches. I started esstylan's? Vegan diet in sept. I lost 8 pounds, Went off cholesterol medicine. My cholesterol before medication was 385. Down to 150 with meds, but goes high without meds. Now though, it's 156 with no medicine due to the diet. Last week I went on the hcg diet with 500 calories a day. I have needed to take only a few units of insulin on this diet because of low starch vegetables, and eating protein. So far though, I am not cured,....only controlling it. My sugars are running around 125, but run lower too. I also had a 170 after a soup I made. My a1c in sept. Was 6.2. It should be lower next appointment. I am trying to see if this British study that claimed to cure diabetes with low calories works or not. I' ve been on insulin probably about 2 years. I'd love to hear from people who have tried low calorie diets and that are taking insulin. Walkgal@gmail.com
  14. I an a personal trainer and I did an experiment on my mom who is 72 and she got type 2 diabeties. The doctor give it to her 18 UI insulin / day, her diet was full of sugar ( fruits, grain, starches etc.) I can't pelice it how wrong those doctors are to put insulin in patients with type 2. I start building a meal plan for her in order to reset all entire hormonal system base in 50 gr carb a day proteine 300, fiber 1500gr. I ad some glue control, vanadyl sulfate am and pm and chromium polynicotinate am and pm too. After 7 days from 180 drop to 70 the sugar level and than I start dropping the insulin 2ui each week. Exercise is very important too 1mile walking with 5 pd dumbells am and pm. Well my mom after 3 months lost 60 pd of fat and got ready of insulin her blood sugar is 100 to 130 now and she eats 200 gr carb a day 450gr proteine and fibers. If you have any question guys be free to contact me 210-844-3795
  15. Sarah
    Just thought I'd share this resource since it's the best info I've found on diabetes since I've been researching today http://www.bettermedicine.com/topic/diabetes
  16. Just a few comments:

    The UK research with the optifast shakes, at 600kcal per day was technically not ONLY a starvation diet, but also a low-carb diet. Looking at the macronutrient profile of those shakes the participants were having an intake of < 60g per carbohydrate daily.

    Most of us know, and any diabetic that's tried low-carb can confirm, that < 60g of carb a day seems to be the place where we see real reversal of blood glucose issues for most people.

    Regarding the Esselstyn vegan diet - The thing about any vegan diet is it also eliminates the refined/processed carbs/sugars that are now being scientifically linked to our problems with cholesterol and heart disease, as well as blood glucose issues.

    Ultimately, low-carb has for over 100 years shown to be the optimum diet for those of us with diabetes.

    As a Type 2 diabetic myself I investigated and tried almost everything. Against the advice of my doctor and my dietician I adopted LCHF, but made sure to incorporate more non-starchy vegetables than I ever used to eat on my old diet. (I never did like veggies much, I must admit, except potatoes and corn...)

    With LCHF I also lost weight, which really accelerated as I increased vigorous exercise as well. As it is now, I've lost almost 100lbs over the past year. My lipid profile is vastly improved.

    As for my blood glucose: HbA1c of 12.1% at diagnosis - 6.0% after 6 months and 5.4% after one year. Fasting blood glucose levels were 14.8mmol/L (267mg/dl) at diagnosis, and is now normally under 5.0 (90) unless I'm sick - when it can be as high as 6.0 (108). The only diabetic medication I continue to take is good old Metformin - and now that I'm in the 5% A1c range I'm thinking of going off that.

  17. jim snell
    The work at Newcastle University in England has very powerful results and points out serious nonsense published about type 2 diabetes.

    Additional work also shows using MRI tools to analyze skeletal muscle cells also shows that as muscle cells get saturated, they turn off their response to insulin to stop further transfer of glucose to those cells.

    Attempting to stuff more glucose in using insulin, oral drugs and actos is destroying a body already loaded.

    Taylor's study has caused them to talk about Type 2 diabetes as a energy balance problem in body. Chronically overload the body cells with more glucose then they can burn results in cells being saturated with glucose.

    Issue is to ensure that energy consumption, plus liver leakage throwback need to be balanced out by process and energy burn - hearty exercise. Failure to do so results in glucose backing up in system.

    The present band of good folks standing in the wrong dead end tunnel with lights turned off are all locked on target of insulin efficiency and just body can keep stuffing more glucose.

    The fact is that insulin resistance from glucose saturation in skeletal muscles being re-inforced by energy imbalance in body is rotting folks out.

    Taylors crowd identified and experiment whereby clamping back on the glucose load dramatically helps get the muscle saturation pulled back and off as well as rectifying pancreas operation.

    The human body regulates blood glucose by shifting it to the skeletal muscle stores using insulin command. That only works when there is always room in muscles to store morer glucose. As those muscles glucose storage are one way in, hearty exercise is mandatory to burning that off on a daily basis.
    As long as these finite skeletal muscle cells not saturated, ones blood glucose usually gets well regulated.

    The other factor not really discussed is the nature of the hunter gatherer digestion/gene system that was optimized against starvation years ago and grabs every calorie/glucose it can find in the ingested food and dumps it into our blood system. Now the human is forced to manually watch energy balance and prevent against glucose saturation in this modern era of high grade 24/7 availability of food.

    Had the hunter gaterer system been designed to bypass excess calories when all the skeletal muscles/liver are topped off, this probably would not be an issue.

    Coupled with all our capability to generate high grade food and snacks, sugars from grains, rice and corn at huge volumes to stave off world wide staravation, we have also implemented the most incredible low exercise culture ever with the cars, computers, lap tops, video games, wide screen tv - all couch potato tools and entertainment.

    Then we wonder why type 2 is exploding out of control world wide while organizations of the past keep filling up the learning space with all sorts of unhelpful claptrap.

  18. ray
    I cured my diabetes 2.
    This is confirmed by my doctor.
    My blood sugar is now reduced to 5.4 (above 6.1 is insulin insensitive = diabetes2)

    How did I do it.

    1. Stop eating all foods with hydrogenated fat (also known as trans fats). It is man-made.
    2. Get your fat from a fist of walnuts per day.
    3. Eat the walnuts for 7 months to replace the man-made fat in your cell walls with natural fat.

    Reason:-
    Hydrogenated fat is modified fat which has an extra hydrogen atom added to it, to prolong food shelf life.
    However, you insulin expects “natural fat” around every cell in your body for the past 4M years – evolution!
    So Insulin is “confused” by the new molecular structure of the fat membrane around you cells.
    By replacing the “man-made” fat by natural fat (from walnuts) over 7 months you insulin works as intended , opens the cell wall and lets the sugar in to be consumed as energy. Done.

    New York state will probably ban all food with hydrogenated fat this year 2012. (They were first to ban smoking!)

    Caution: Manufacturers have negotiated agreement with the food authorities to NOT show hydrogenated fat on packaging if it is less than 0.05%. So beware and dont eat any food that has long shelf life (snacks, cookies, etc) including the oil used for fries in your local fast food outlet.

    For how insulin works see http://www.khanacademy.org/science/healthcare-and-medicine/v/glucose-...

    I am an engineer, not a medical person, so I bring a different discipline and training to problem solving.

    Reply: #26
  19. It's going to be finish of mine day, except before ending I am reading this fantastic post to improve my know-how.
  20. Jeffery Sikes
    Peggy,
    There is a difference in low carbohydrate diets. I know I have the same diagnosis as your sister. I know this is 1 year later but this is not only for you (if you ever read the post) it’s for all those who read this post in addition to yourself who are having the same issues. I respond well to low carbohydrate diets but there is a difference in my diet and most other type II diabetics.
    1) My diet is low carbohydrate but its also limited to those foods defined in Leviticus 11, I don’t eat meat or fish which is outside the scope of biblical definition (no Pork, no shell fish etc…)
    2) The second half of eating right as a diabetic is understanding your daily routine and sticking with it. Pick the peak 10 hours of your day time for consumption of any foods which might contain carbohydrates, even in small amounts. During the last 2 hours of the 10 hour period you should start to ramp down off any carbohydrate. Within 4 hours of the end of that period, you should not intake any carbohydrates at all and you should stop eating any food.
    I would be willing to bet your sister eats low carbohydrate meals but places them in a traditional fashion (breakfast, Lunch and Dinner). Diabetics need to consume all their daily carbohydrates by lunch and not consume any more, or extremely limit the supply, until the next day. This gives your body the chance to ramp down at the end of the day when you are likely to be the most inactive and it’s the reason for her high fasting blood glucose counts. So far this is working for me and I have gone backward on my metformin intake. I was at 2500mg metformin per day and facing the shots but decided to get a handle on things myself. Now I take 500mg metformin per day and my glucose readings are much more stable. The goal is to get control of my intake of carbohydrates to the point that I no longer take Metformin. When I started my readings were nearly 500 and I was going blind.
  21. There are some really excellent posts on here. I can only reiterate my position. No carbs (unless in green vegetables or peppers) the odd bit of fruit and a good old work out every day (swimming or gym). In my case I make sure that this exersise is knackering. Sometimes when I test after a hard session my BG goes up - I suspect that this is stored glucose being released to make up for the energy being burnt. I've lost quite a bit of weight, although only just overweight when diagnosed with type2. The low carb, exercise routine does work. My only concern is that I shall starve myself to death as I just don't know at which point to get some sort of balance.
  22. jack
    I am a 53 year old male..I have been having this problem since about age 35 or so..I think I a am type 2.I weighed 284lb.I am 264lb. now.Several years ago I started on the inslin shot a few years back for control.(Still high even with inslin above 140).Gained weight! About a week ago I stopped taking inslin and started to control it with diet..I am on the high fat/lowcarb.diet.Blood sugar is still high 200 to 240 every morning.I am eating lots of high fat/protien meats and butters no starches,just veg.I start eating around 10am and my last meal is around 5pm(3 to 4 meals).I drink water only..I have tried high protien diets before and my blood sugar always go up over night.(most days around 140 to 175.) If anyone has an idea,please let me know whats going on? I guess maybe when I lose more weight things may level out...thanks in advace
    Reply: #23
  23. Zepp
    Well first of all.. this is not a high protein diet, its a high fat diet.. ie, a ketogenic diet.. especialy good for controling/reverting diabetes type 2.

    High protein intake gonna make glucose of the excesses.. and thats not so good for a diabetic, and its not that good for fat oxidation eigther.

    And in the morning you got the Dawn phenomenon, that rises your blood sugar, its a part of cirkadian cycle and not that much to do about.. others then take a walk.

    Try to read this book.. by another diabetic type 2!

    "Diabetes, No Thanks!"

    http://www.amazon.com/Diabetes-No-Thanks-Scandinavian-Diet/dp/1908018...

    Reply: #24
  24. jack
    thanks Zepp..
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  26. Ehsan Murad
    Dear Ray,
    You hit a point which relates to Thomas Smith's article healingmatters.com.
    He also states that it is the consumption of hydrogenated fats that is to blame.
    Could you extrapolate on the method you took to cure your diabetes?
    Can you now eat starchy foods without raising blood sugar levels?
    I think it is very important as this seems to go to the root of the problem.
    Thanks in advance
    Ehsan
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  28. joyce
    i do not understand why in the am my readings are high so is my twin and our brother. i take insulin my sisters readings are very high and she was never told to take insulin she takes just metaformin. a 1000 units a day. her sugar is 400 or more. i think because were twins the dr. is doing a trial study on us. i eat low carbs and she is doing no carbs at all. my brother takes insulin too.i ate okra and my sugar came down to 112 after a few stays it went back up. so i tried coconut capules and my sugar went down to 112 in a few days it went back up to 200. it is like my body says i know what your doing and it is not gonna work. i think no matter what we do it is in our D N A. both parents were diabetics and my dad's brothers are diabetics. it passed his sisters and went to the next generation us twins. i feel i am doomed not matter what i do, the dr. increases my insilin and it causes more weight gain.
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