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What does Loren Cordain and Lindeberg have for lunch?

I just went shopping for lunch with a big group from the conference. What food do you think the Paleo-giants Loren Cordain and Staffan Lindeberg chose?

Good Paleo food

They chose, shockingly enough, meat and vegetables.

Whole Foods Market

The food above is from Whole Foods Market. Great food, but not exactly cheap. It’s understandable that poor Americans more often get their food from McDonalds. Unfortunately that has completely different effect on their weight and health.

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13 Comments

  1. Janknitz
    An article about this appeared in the paper this morning: http://www.newsday.com/classifieds/jobs/study-finds-many-can-t-afford...

    While the "healthy" foods they were referring to meant those recommended by the USDA with the new dietary guidelines.

    "He mentioned, as an example, a Washington state policy that makes it difficult to buy potatoes with food assistance coupons for women with children, even though potatoes are one of the least expensive ways to add potassium to a diet."

    Well, maybe they're better off without potatoes afterall (what about leafy greens, broccoli, burssels sprouts, etc.?) but it is true that fresh vegetables and healthy meats are less available in stores serving economically challenged areas, and things like wild caught fish, grass fed meat, and free range eggs are simply not affordable for many even if they are available.

    McDonalds is accessible and affordable in economically challenged neighborhoods, plus they make it soooo convenient to pick up inexpensive Happy Meals for your kids instead of spending the time and money to shop for and cook healthier foods. Sad, sad, sad!

  2. JoJo
    Sure they chose meat and vegetables ... with the vegetable oils they were telling everyone to avoid. Try finding a Whole Foods prepared meal which has only Olive Oil or Coconut Oil vs Sunflower, Safflower, Soybean or Canola.
  3. chuck
    whole foods is still full of a whole lotta crap. i am sure they made good choices but many think anything in that place is good for you.

    someone i knew bought organic cookies there because they thought it was a better snack for their kids. i said that was like buying organic cigarettes and she looked at me like i had 2 heads. most people just don't get it.

  4. I wouldn't want to eat at McDonald's every day, but when I do, I just get a burger without the bun, a side salad with salsa as dressing, and an unsweetened ice tea. All of that can be had from the Dollar Menu. A $3 low-carb lunch. Get ice water instead of tea, and it's a $2 low-carb lunch. Of course the problem is having no other choice but this, day after day.
  5. JoJo's got it right. Whole Foods, while better than most options, uses seed oils for everything. It's hard to get a salad there with just olive oil. I never eat their pre-prepared foods, as I'm very sensitive to wheat and seed oils.
  6. Michal P
    I would have expected these diet "experts" to be in better shape. Whoever the guy in the green shirt is has a gut. This means that he either does not stick to his diet, or his diet sucks.
  7. Ashley
    I had no trouble finding meat and veggies all cooked in (only) olive oil at the whole foods this weekend. Great conference.
  8. chuck
    @michael p
    the guy in the green is loren cordain. i too found myself thinking he did not look too buff. question is, if you are one of the faces of the paleo movement do you need to be buff to be a credible example?
    i am not sure. it may help him sell more books. most anyone would want to look like mark sisson no matter what their age is.
  9. Sanddog
    Regarding Dr Cordain's weight... cut him a little slack. The guy is in his 60s. He's not an athlete, he's a researcher and we have no idea what kind of demands he has on his time.
  10. Regarding Loren Cordain: this is not the most flattering photo of him I'm afraid. While he may not have the superhero body of Mark Sisson I'd say he is more fit than 95% of Americans his age.
  11. A friend of mine (Ari Armstrong) did what he called the "Serious food economy challenge" http://www.freecolorado.com/2007/06/sixmonthchallenge.html some time ago, spending less per month on food than the amount allotted by the American Food Stamp welfare program. (For non-Americans, this is a program that grants people below a certain income level with money that can be used to purchase food items on a monthly basis.) He then went and did it again for a low-carb diet.

    Even though food prices are starting to skyrocket due to the effects of the horrific inflation bearing down on us, it's still possible to eat well very cheaply. The trick is to eat well cheaply and *conveniently*, which is much more difficult. If you do what Ari did, you eat what's on sale pretty much exclusively, you buy things like whole turkeys and roast them at home, etc. Granted if you work at it you can mix up a huge batch of something on your day off and eat it gradually over the week, which isn't TOO inconvenient.

    Having worked in a supermarket in an impoverished part of town, I can tell you that I almost never saw people economize to make their food stamps go further. Instead, they bought almost exclusively junk food (including luxury items like candy dispensers and specially printed cakes). It infuriated me, because at the time I had about a dollar a day to spend on feeding myself. Only time in my life I ever managed to lose weight--because I was clocking in at about 1100 calories a day most of the time. Lost 50 pounds in 3 months. I don't recommend it.

  12. Kathy
    @Jennifer: Many inner cities do not have chain supermarkets, but convenience stores. Most of those convenience stores are stocked with refined carbs, not fresh fruit, meats, and veggies. Michael Pollan was on PBS a few years back decrying the lack of produce and availability of decent food in the poorest neighborhoods-not to mention farmers markets. If ya person is working 2 jobs, doesn't have a car or ais reliant upon crappy public transportation systems, the odds are that he or she would choose to shop at the convenience store. Pointing out that people could have made their food stamps go farther or that you can actually make decent food choices on food stamps is blaming the victim, rather than the system. It's a combination of lack of time, lack of access to fresh foods, and lack of education that has led to obesity among the poor. Most people are educated to follow the food pyramid-we just happen to be lucky that we have internet access and found the low carb, high fat diet. :-)
  13. Laura
    Should I hear that Prof Cordain chocked on a pretzel...now that would be a scandal especially if one of the many low carb docs was called to do a rasuscitation!!

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