The Result of My Diabetes Lunch

Bloodsugar19sep

What happened when I ate the junk-food lunch at the diabetes meeting?

Above, you can see the blood-sugar graph. My blood sugar predictably shot up from all the sugar and starch. It peaked at around 160 mg/dl (9 mmol/l). The red circles above represent actual measurements, the line represents an average of two consecutive  measurements.

A normal fasting blood sugar is between 70 mg/dl and 100 mg/dl (4 and 6 mmol/l). After a meal, blood glucose should stay below 160 mg/dl (8.7 mmol/l) to be considered normal.

Fortunately I don’t have diabetes, but still the blood sugar spikes to levels that usually only diabetics attain. The more often you do this, the worse it is. Or well, worse for the person who eats. But the better for those who sell diabetes medications and other diabetes-related things here at this conference.

With 15,000 participants here for an entire week, one might wonder how many will get type 2 diabetes from eating the junk that is served at the diabetes conference. Some of the participants will probably become part of the rapidly growing diabetes epidemic that feeds the entire diabetes industry.

There’s potential for an even bigger conference next year.

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What’s Inside the Bags?

Lunch at the Diabetes Conference

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Diabetes – How to Normalize Your Blood Sugar

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  1. Gay Corran
    Why were you there, Andreas? If it was a pharmaceutical conference your knowledge of how to handle T2 diabetes without drugs would not be welcome. At the diabetes clinic that I attend annually, there are big glossy boards with colourful pictures of fruit and vegetables and cereal packets and breads and grains, together with the advice to base 60% of each meal on starchy carbohydrates. The boards and advice are produced by Bayer. I do not follow this advice, and my A1C counts have remained in the non-diabetic range since I started LCHF eight years ago. I take no drugs. But diabetics are still being peddled this nonsense by medical centres in the UK. You have to be strong to resist the pressure. Also to resist the pressure to take statins. I am coeliac, and was taking statins when I became diabetic. We need more doctors like you and Dr Briffa world-wide. Thank you for what you do.
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  1. Jutta K.Deutschland
    Mein Gott, was für eine Ironie, solche Lunch-Paket zu verteilen und das in einer Dieabetes-Konferenz
    Mir fehlen die Worte !
    LG
    Jutta
  2. Gretchen
    I hope you're sending your graph to the conference organizers.

    Of course, being on a LC diet makes one more sensitive to carbs.

  3. ivor cummins
    Good man Andreas; an admirable voice of reason, in a world full of nutritional and scientific obfuscation - keep it up......!

    ivor
    http://www.thefatemperor.com

  4. Anna
    If I recall, you are a big guy. Just imagine what happened to those who ate this "lunch" who are smaller than you, with a lower blood volume!
  5. Gay Corran
    Why were you there, Andreas? If it was a pharmaceutical conference your knowledge of how to handle T2 diabetes without drugs would not be welcome. At the diabetes clinic that I attend annually, there are big glossy boards with colourful pictures of fruit and vegetables and cereal packets and breads and grains, together with the advice to base 60% of each meal on starchy carbohydrates. The boards and advice are produced by Bayer. I do not follow this advice, and my A1C counts have remained in the non-diabetic range since I started LCHF eight years ago. I take no drugs. But diabetics are still being peddled this nonsense by medical centres in the UK. You have to be strong to resist the pressure. Also to resist the pressure to take statins. I am coeliac, and was taking statins when I became diabetic. We need more doctors like you and Dr Briffa world-wide. Thank you for what you do.
  6. Rainer
    Hi Andreas, yes it’s a terrible junk-food lunch. But I hope you know that blood sugar spikes higher by eating this lunch (or make a OGTT) after eating low carb as after eating high carb for a few days. That’s why your graph doesn’t show that this junk-food lunch makes diabetes.
  7. FrankG
    With such a large gathering of interested parties, just think of all the data-points which could be collected if each participant was issued a BG meter and strips, then kept a BG and food diary for the duration of the conference. Even if it were only for each person's own interest it might prove enlightening but if the data was gathered, it might open a few eyes and minds.
  8. SGray
    After the conference you can visit any U.S. pharmacy for your diabetes medication and add candy to your purchase....because many many drug stores line the pharmacy sales counter with a bountiful candy sales display. Are the pharmacists unaware? in denial? out-voted?
  9. Anthony
    Keep up the good fight Andreas !
  10. Murray
    Paul the rat, did you see this research?

    http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/09/17/sit-less-live-longer/?_php=t...

    I found this paragraph most interesting:

    "But perhaps most interesting, there was little correlation between exercise and telomere length. In fact, the volunteers in the exercise group who had worked out the most during the past six months tended now to have slightly less lengthening and even some shortening, compared to those who had exercised less but stood up more."

    Could it be that standing is low intensity fat-burning, ketone-generating activity and the telomere effect is from the ketones? I have a standup desk at work and standing all day keeps my ketone level steady and my mind alert and clear and, evidently, my telomeres lengthy.

  11. Eric Anderson
    When I travel or dine out I try to watch and ask about the food.

    However, sometimes you can be served an omlette ( With added corn starch and dextrose etcetera) and sometimes a 'scramled egg' also with added corn starch and and dextrose.

    I have noted a sweet taste in a steak to find it was marinated in ******.

    I try to confirm the damage later.

    For me when my blood sugar "spikes" into the low 90's or once into the 104 level I am less than happy

    What will it take to address the hidden sugars/ carbs?

    More reporting and visable complaints like letters to the editor to report the who what when and where of this sugar poisioning?

    Eric

    ((Take boiled eggs and Kelly Gold butter and skip the gamble!))
    ((Sardines))

  12. Johan
    Artikel i SvD idag om diabetesexplosion i Kina. Analys: För lite cykling och äter för mycket sött och fett. Följt av rek. diet från nationalencyklopedin. Mycket kh...
  13. Zepp
    And by coinsidens and half op topic I like to promote Ivor Cummins great seminar "The Cholesterole Conundrum"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuj6nxCDBZ0

    Its a must se for all low carbers!

    Send it to your friends, perticaly if they are engineers or technican.. they would love it!

    Reply: #26
  14. Tyrannocaster
    So what you got for lunch was nearly ALL carb except for the fat in the chips and the candy bar, and that is better left uninvestigated. It would be funny if it weren't so sad. That's not a lunch for anyone, but what a problematic "meal" for diabetics and surely there have to be some diabetics at this particular conference, yes? Wonder what they think.
  15. Murray
    Surely it is ironic. With our drugs, a diabetic can even eat this.
    Reply: #20
  16. Berts
    Hmm... looks like a typical NHS diabetic conference. except these days they would also expect you to pay for it....in more ways than one!
  17. Stephen
    Ok, that's pretty cool. It looks pretty identical to a 75g glucose tolerance test, or 100g of Dreamfields pasta :)

    Thanks for the post. It motivated me to do a little bit of research on the cause of T2 diabetes. I'll try to eat vegetables with my carbs to moderate my blood glucose and insulin response.

    Steve
    http://2lbsofstarch.com

  18. Amanda Renfrew
    Oh my goodness - I thought you were diabetic when I saw the graph and was super impressed you managed to keep it below 160. And you're NOT diabetic? That makes that graph even more scary.

    I strongly wish for more research backing proper nutrition for diabetes, as it is a constant battle to know the best way to nourish our bodies. Having sad that, I am sure without needing to google it that it's NOT with chips and a twix bar.

    I am dumbfounded why so many in the medical community, including the ADA - who should be our biggest advocates - would recommend a 60% carb diet for people who can't metabolize carbs. Where is the evidence to support this?

    http://www.amandarenfrew.blogspot.com

  19. Kim Shannon
    I was dumbfounded as well 2-1/2 years ago when I had two surgeries, three weeks apart, at The Washington Hospital Center in Washington, DC. Supposedly an excellent hospital. I had the best endocrine surgeon in the area and excellent medical care for the most part. But - and this is a BIG but - their idea of what to feed a diabetic was scary. I am a type 2 diabetic and at that point had been following a LCHF diet for 10 months, during which time I had lost 50 pounds and brought my A1C down to 5.6. For breakfast the morning after surgery they brought me French toast with syrup, oatmeal, peaches (canned), and orange juice. This was listed as their breakfast for a "moderate carbohydrate diet" and appropriate for diabetics. I refused to eat it and finally got a doctor to order them to give me eggs. But even after calling the hospital and writing a letter about it, when I went in for the second surgery they brought me the exact same breakfast. Luckily I had learned my lesson the first time and had my husband bring me food.
  20. François
    Murray,

    You are absolutely right. With drugs, patients can eat this crap. Medication works. But medication treats the symptoms, not the cause. And makes type 2 diiabetes worse by the same token, which nearly all physicians are unaware of.

    For the sake of new readers of this blog (old timers already know this) I'll use an analogy.

    An abcess needs drainage and antibiotics for treatment. But an abcess also gives symptoms of fever and pain. If a doctor gives tylenol to a patient with an abcess, he'll make him feel somewhat better for a while. Did he cure him? Absolutely not: he only hid the symptoms. Until the abcess gets bigger and the pain and fever come back. Then the dose of tylenol is increased. Until the patient either dies of sepsis or of tylenol intoxication.

    Type 2 diabetes is insulin resistance caused by excessive insulin levels, in the same way resistance or tolerance to the effects of alcohol is caused by excessive alcohol intake.

    True treatment of type 2 diabetes is to reduce to the minimum stimulation of insulin production - and the only way to achieve this is to cut carbs, alcohol and starches. That way, insulin levels go to a minimum and inflammation goes down. For interest purposes, there are insulin receptors in atheromatous plaques which explain why type 2 diabetics have diffuse atherosclerosis, as high insulin levels stimulate growth of these plaques.

    And what is the effect of type 2 diabetes medication? Some attempt at sensitizing peripheral tissue to the effect of insulin, keeping insulin levels high and some force the pancreas to produce even more insulin to overcome - for a while - peripheral resistance by overloading the tissue with insulin.

    A physician who would give tylenol as the only treatment for an abcess would be sued for malpractice. A physician who tells a patient to eat 60% carbs and gives him medication to increase his insulin and control his symptoms is deemed to follow guidelines and is considered to be practicing to the highest standards, based on "evidence based medicine". Even if his patient dies of generalized atherosclerosis or of one of the many complications of type 2 diabetes medication. So sad.

  21. Galina L.
    The experience of Dr.Andreas also illustrates the downside of cycling between diets. It is one of reasons (there is also a social downside) why I think that a LC diet is not a good choice for young and healthy people who don't have a solid reason to substantially limit carbs in their diet. Occasional meal like a slice of a birthday cake at somebody's birthday party or pack of chips consumed in a social setting may sent their blood sugar to an unhealthy level. I think for young people and especially children it is enough to avoid industrial foods, sugar, soft drinks, bread, besides not skipping on good quality animal based foods. Most parents discover that the key for children to eat their vegetables are butter and cheese. I am not talking about the children who have health reasons for a LC diet.
  22. Steve Kirsch
    This is a 75g carb load. Not quite a 75g dextrose bolus, but probably not far from it.

    If Andreas was not on low carb, he's clearly well on his way to being a diabetic.

    But I'd guess he was on low-carb in which case this kind of anemic response is pretty typical. A more "fair" test would be to get on a high carb diet for a week and then repeat the test.

    I do like the joke about there will be more people at the conference next year (due to the impact of the lunch). That was pretty funny. Not true of course since one meal isn't going to make a difference, but it was funny.

  23. Karen
    It's bad enough that this junk was IN the diabetic lunch, but is that really ALL it was? No protein? Even for those who naysay LCHF, you'd think they give some "low fat" protein. Where's the sugary yogurt or the baked plain chicken breast?
  24. Marilyn
    Good grief! Yesterday, I was looking through some popular magazines. One announced that exercise was the key to overcoming diabetes, with zero mention of carbohydrates. A second reported an exciting new treatment called "intermittent fasting." The magazine published their own version of "intermittent fasting." On the 690-calorie "fasting" days, they recommended -- among other things -- bowls blueberries, grapes and whole grain pasta.
  25. Susanne
    Did anyone speak up about this inappropriate lunch?
  26. Renee
    That video is awesome!

    I'm so grateful for this blog and for all the replies and info everyone shares. Thank you!

  27. Maurício Trambaioli
    > 140@1h & >126@2h ?!

    a bit high, thought (probably as wished the EASD sponsors...)

  28. Maurício Trambaioli
    Despite nice overall markers results, kinda high fasting glycemia as well, thought ...
    http://www.dietdoctor.com/health-markers-eight-years-lchf
  29. Zepp
    Yeah.. he does a great jobb.. mayby thanks to he is a enginer.. simplifying a complicated regulation problem.

    And then.. it takes 1,5 hour anyhow to explain it.. it cant be explained esyer whithout losing anything substansial.

  30. Robert
    This has perhaps been answered. I recently got my blood work back and after being on a strict LCHF diet for the past 90 days (and having lost 25lbs), my blood glucose came back on the high side (100mg/dl). What could be the causes of this because I definitely am not ingesting any sugar?

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