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October 14 2015 by Dr. Andreas Eenfeldt, MD![Dr. Andreas Eenfeldt, MD]()
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Do you want to lose weight and/or reverse your diabetes? The most powerful natural method – ideally used in combination with an low-carb diet – is intermittent fasting.
We’ve been fortunate enough to get to work with one of the world’s leading experts on the subject, Dr. Jason Fung. He was kind enough to travel from Canada to Sweden, just to record video courses with us. Above you can watch the first part of the video series. It’s a brief introduction to fasting and I hope you’ll enjoy it!
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Dr. Fung’s blog: IDMprogram.com
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It's not at all unreasonable to respect other people's beliefs, in a way that does not harm anyone in the slightest. Why would you insult other people just to prove that you can?
It seems you completely misunderstood
smc's post.
Men of understanding by respecting each other's faith with open heart and mind could bring peace to the World. Which is need of the hour !
Just tune out...SIMPLE and no stress involved. I personally loved the presentation...Simple and stress free....now back to my fast....
Do you need a scientific report on everything?
Do you need a scientific study to tell you that an alarm clock can wake you up?
There is history and tradition and the evidence it comes with.
Yes many silly things have been done in history but most will have persisted only where money or politics is involved.
There is no money in fasting (until now with books and websites)
Chinese medicine, in general, is still being used successfully in China today.
Some Chinese medicine is probably more successful that the, 'scientifically proven', medicine of our drug oriented hospitals.
These days - if you have enough money - you can buy the science.
In fact it was very bad science that introduced sugar as an alternative to fat in the USA!
So it was science based evidence that led the USA into the obesity epidemic of today.
When Dr Lustig tried to refute this 'science' he was ridiculed.
We need to take all evidence into account - both traditional and scientific - then apply common sense!
Another point is - most of the books written on the subject are written by slim guys like you. Sorry Andreas -as a formerly hyper obese - losing close to 60 kg in 4 years and following various approaches to it - I, and folks like me certainly can speak about hunger, pangs, ups and downs more authoritative than handsome looking body builders...In the LCHF - it all started by Atkins - now disguised as Ketogenic. LCHF and other abbreviations - Plain and simple - read original Atkins, do modify your habits, see how it works and do some minor adjustments...When plateau-ing - do some IF and voila...but never come back to your previous eating pattern.
I am also puzzled no one ever talks about the various types of obesity - IT IS NOT a SINGLE TYPE FITS ALL - BMI is just a ridiculous indicator that 1.70m man declared morbidly obese at 105kg - while it is certainly not so and depends on myriads of factors. 145kg for that person is completely different story. Generalized adipocity is not the same as central adiposity - they don't pose the same metabolic challenge and need different approaches at the final stages - never seen formerly 150kg fellow go down to 78 kg and as a matter of fact NO NEED to aim there - no metabolic problems will occur at 94kg for that person. But 105kg with A1C of 6.8% is another story....No one seems to contemplate enough on it and it is a KEY. Have you happened to note how much down in weight bariatric patients go? No? They end up almost universally at around 100kg and look and feel splendid. They do lose 40-50+ kg and it improves them quite a bit. Are they still morbidly obese and need to go down to 85kg? Certainly not cause they metabolically CAN"T do it - in the long run...But they are much healthier....The above points seems much more valid to deal with and not another "Lucid and Clear explanation" of what's been already done zillions of time like IF - its simple for most people not on medications and needs be monitored for DMT2....but not via "subscription pages". Do we need more of the Jimmy Moore-ean crap or we need to get serious?
Actually it is YOU playing with words to create strawman arguments...
[You may not see this as using religion as "proof" but what other reason can there have
been for bringing religion up?]
If you asked Dr. Fung, he would surely say it is not offered up as "proof". He is simply providing a historical context for fasting in this introductory video. He doesn't talk about religion at all in his practice.
[Still not a reason to use religion as support on an evidence based website.]
It's historical content; not "support" or "proof" as YOU claim.
[Have you had your daily moxibustion treatment today? After all, it's been
used for centuries...]
Your logical fallacy is that the basis for IF is NOT that it has been used for centuries by religious people. The basis for IF is the clinical results obtained by obese and diabetic patients who improve their conditions.
As for moxibustion, the jury is still out. But randomized clinical trials suggests that it may be effective in changing breech presentation of babies. So your attempt at ridicule doesn't work even if you did not engage in a logical fallacy.
Blood-letting would have worked better for you. But note that the practice has ceased since it has been proven to be harmful and NOT to be effective at anything. Not much has been proven about moxibustion.
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You really shouldn't obsess over someone giving a little historical context. After all, even modern clinical trials are conducted because certain treatments seem to be efficacious in a historical context. Off label use of modern prescription drugs (that then become on-label) has historical context just like IF.
You and Dr Fung and the other presenters here are saving lives and as one of those being saved, I can't begin to tell you how much I appreciate it. So please ignore anyone who might distract you from your important work with attempts to silence, homogenize, or sterilize your speakers. I need you. Focus on me and the millions like me. Continue to give us the tools and knowledge and hope we need to recover not just our health but the quality of our lives.
Regardless - I love this program. All of the videos and other materials are helpful. Healthy radical low carb is definitely the best diet for me, and I'm anorexic-bulimic. Fasting feels good to me, and eating a lot after fasting feels good to me. My eating disorder has actually served me in this respect, and the program has transformed it from a disease to a healthy "lifestyle."
I appreciate the great work you're all doing and feel deeply grateful to you all.
The Diet Doctor has done the right thing by respecting the diversity of others. those without the courage to defend tolerance can be accused of fascism, or the proponence of one view at the cost of diversity.
Yes, that's the crux of the issue with religion.
Just leave it out.
The first information on you tube was worth while. That is fine but you repeat in those videos so f=often I finally just search ahead for new info. I do thanks you for all that on the videos.
But If you would tell us when we come here we are only going to get a sales pitch even that would be ok. But you BAit and Switch. I waist my precious time only to be told THEN the only way I will get real benefit from this is to BUY your program. Just tell us up front and stop leading us down the garden path. For today's Stuff. Thanks for nothing
The fact that some of those people are also noted for their perception of a non-material aspect to existence does nothing to invalidate their experience of physical reaction to a particular dietary regime.
They stopped because of the exchange of factual experience. They did not stop fearing wild animals or house fires. Those beliefs have stood the test of time. As has fasting.
Uh, no, they haven't. See:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hirudo_medicinalis#Today
The issue here is: citing religion as
any scientific backing is inappropriate
on a science based website.
Why isn't that clear to you?
I look forward to your reply.
:)
I have been told not to eat high fat because I have NAFLD. Do you agree?
I'd like the physician's opinion, please.
You may think the historical context is not important. I would argue it is very relevant. When I started IF many of my colleagues were incredulous. They viewed it as potentially dangerous and akin to a new dieting fad. Some wondered how I would survive missing breakfast and most said that they would never be able to do it. It is only when I mentioned that many people do it all the time (and that many of them have done it several times) and gave different examples (eg. colonoscopies require fasting for 2 -3 days; when you have the flu you often don't eat for a day or so and that some religious people do it as part of their religion) that people realised I would be okay and that I wouldn't die. Did my examples provide scientific evidence that IF works? No. They provided practical examples that there are people out there (including my colleagues and I) who do IF (for different reasons) and who don't appear to be suffering because of it. For example, when I had to have a colonoscopy I fasted for 3 days. This experience allowed me to see that I could fast and that I didn't appear to suffer because of it. This knowledge was important for me because when I decided to use IF to lower my insulin response I knew I would be able to do it as I had previous success doing it.
Dr Fung is not saying that because IF has been used by religions that this is proof that it works. For that you need scientific evidence. If you have read his blogs and watched his videos you would know he is a very strong advocate of scientific studies to back up his claims and bases most of what he says on peer reviewed scientific studies.
I know religious people who fast. Are they healthier for doing so? I wouldn't have a clue. But what I do know is that there are people who do IF for religious reasons and as a result I know it is not a novel or new dietary fad. This is what Dr Fung is trying to get across and this is why he spends a few minutes in a very long video series mentioning it. And why is this important? You only need to look at the number of people who are dieting or trying out the latest new wonder diet. We live in a time when nutritional advice and dietary advice is given in an historical vacuum. As there is no historical context in which to view this advice it is easy to keep switching from one diet to another. The result of course is that people no longer trust the advice they are given.
To end this discussion, if Dr Fung had simple said in passing that IF has been practiced for centuries by people but did not mention religion at all would you have been so troubled?
I am a vegetarian who eats fish. I now consume a LOTof water, flax, chia seeds, pumpkin and sesame seeds, olives, olive oil, butter, avocadoes, cheese, eggs, fish, nuts, cream, coconut oil, 90% dark chocolate and peanut paste. I don't eat any sugar, rice, potatoes or products made from flour. I have never been healthier. In the space of 3 months my NAFLD has disappeared, my triglycerides went from 5.8 to 0.6, my LDL plummeted, my Vitamin D went back within normal ranges, all skin rashes disappeared and I no longer get headaches. Interestingly even though I eat so much fat now I have also lost weight. I now weigh 68kg. I used to weigh 75 kg.
My doctor cannot believe what has happened to me. She said I am the only person she has ever treated who has reversed all their metabolic syndrome markers through diet. By the way I used to eat a very healthy, low fat, high fibre, high carbohydrate and grain-based diet. It is this diet that caused me problems.