Butter battlefield Scandinavia

The Swedish LCHF revolution is spreading to our neighbors Norway and Finland. Like Sweden they are now experiencing shortages of real butter.
Here is a local paper from Norway yesterday. The big text reads: “The stores in Troms COMPLETELY OUT of butter and cream”. Also in the green section: “The Low Carb trend continues in full force”!
The black sheep of Scandinavia is Denmark. They fear fat so much they even started taxing saturated fat (like butter) last month. Soon we may see diverging obesity rates: Sweden, Norway, Finland going down and Denmark going up. That could be a good lesson to the world.
Of course; you do realize that Sweden et al will just be described as another 'paradox' like the French and the Swiss..... ;)
That's fine. The best thing for the world would be if the USA and it's military die off.
Is there an organized movement in Norway? I'm moving there in 6 days and would like to hook up with like minded people.
That's fine. The best thing for the world would be if the USA and it's military die off.
And how long before something far worse stepped into the breach? I'm all in favor of getting our military and goofball conservativism in check, but we all need to die off to make you happy. Not a very civilized comment.
Wow. We're not all bad. Some of us were just born here, and stay for the entertainment options. Anyway, Christian Finnegan (a stand-up comedian) was on Conan a few days ago, and said something like "Why can't the US just lay low and be a middle of the road country like Belgium for a little while? When's the last time you heard of anything, good or bad, happening in Belgium? We just assume they spend their days watching Jean Claude Van Damme movies and eating waffles."
#4 Gary L Green: there is like minded people in Finland as well. http://anttiheikkila.com/en09.php
No, you're not all bad but you do vote very poorly.
But hey, how about them Packers?
This blog is about diets and nutrition if you didn't know.
I think it is extremely impolite of you to use the Doctor's blog for your own political views. Why not start a blog of your own?
But to make it worse the following advise is given:
"The toast sandwich provides about 330 calories, and consumers could opt for the healthier alternative of margarine instead of butter - an ingredient not available to Mrs Beeton because she was writing her book before it was invented."
I think the UK and US are still in for a lot of trouble.
Here's the full article: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-15752918
I fear I may have become a furious letter-writer. You know, Angry of Tunbridge Wells, complaining about reporting on the BBC.
I already emailed a member of the House of Lords about his unhelpful comments on obesity ("people need to eat less". Yes, that is what he said), and I can feel a lot more on the way. The UK's National Obesity Forum is in my sights. Unhelpful fat-bashers.
I can't wait for the health statistics coming out of Sweden in 5/10 years time. What are the fat-bashing calories-in-obsessives going to do then!?
The Danes love their Lurpak butter - they are a pork- and dairy-producing nation. Almost nothing would make them give up their butter.
The new tax isn't very high - certainly not enough to change consumption habits. The tax adds only about US$1.30 per half-kilo (pound). Compare this to the caffeine tax, which comes to about US$1 a pound.
As we've learned from watching taxes on things like cigarettes, the tax has to go to $4 or $5 an item before people will seriously stop. For example, New York City didn't see a huge decline in smoking until the per-pack tax went to US$5.85!
Danes are also used to high "sin" taxes. To compare, the cigarette tax in Denmark is 13.61% per pack, plus an extra tax on each cigarette in the pack itself. Basically the cost of a pack of cigarettes is doubled by the all the taxes.
As these taxes are said to be devoted to the Danish universal health care system, they are widely supported since Danes love their free medical care. :)
I don't think the Danes will notice the tax. Everything there is expensive and all the taxes in Scandinavia against alcohol never worked anyway. I've never lived in a place with more restrictions and taxes on alcohol, but the bars were full every night.
fat free milk, gelatin powder, coconut nectar, and stevia. That is NOT whipped cream.
At least it isn't full of ridiculous fat free substances and real sweetener, except for the lactose in the skimmed milk. The pie itself calls for agave syrup - touted as being a healthy sweetener. As Tom Naughton says, "this is what we are up against."
Unfortunately I think if we are going to change the climate of opinion simply writing to organizations that have a vested financial interest in maintaining the status quo is likely to be unproductive.
Look at who funds the National Obesity Forum. The National Obesity Forum Partners
I think whenever and wherever we get a chance to comment on rubbish articles in the press we should try to show the evidence showing what actually happens in practice. I know it's a sole destroying pastime as most online/press moderation censor evidence based replies but some sneek through sufficient to see a gradual rising in awareness.
In a semi-sleep state last night it felt like the best idea in the world. Now it sounds like work. :/
Other readers wanting to learn more may enjoy Gary Taubes Missing Chapter on Gout that was written for Good Calories/Bad Calories or The Diet Delusion as sold in UK.
No I don't think that will work. People eating low carb diets tend to be reasonable intelligent and thoroughly nice people. I think eventually UK Low Carb spokespeople like Zoe Harcombe, Barry Groves and Dr Briffa will win out but they do need our support.
By the way, why do the kidneys stop excreting ketones, and how does that help?
I've only been doing the LCHF way of life for the past 2 weeks, and when I'm talking to people and they ask me when I'm going back to carbs/starches, and I say, "never", they get this slightly crazed and frightened look in their eyes. It's kind of fun...
Two kinds of people in the world, right? Those who get it, and those who don't.
You are going to make cream and fatty meat and fish so overpriced that I will end up eating BREAD. Yuk!
Is BREAD a bad word on this forum? "Bread, Bread, Bread"
Really, if all the world suddenly got the message what would happen. Cereals are the staple and modern varieties have been bred to increase yield as a way to feed this ten times overpopulated world. Is it better to eat cereals or better to starve?
"Let them eat cake." can't be so bad.
It's alright for you pompous wealthy folk to let the cat out of the bag but please give a thought to the underfinanced fat eaters like me.
"Down with LCHF publicity," is what I say. Please stop this evangalistic nonsense.