Former Boxer: LCHF is for Lazy Idiots

There may be a massive trend towards higher-fat diets in Sweden now. But it’s still controversial. The Swedish former boxer Paolo Roberto just published a cookbook filled with pasta recipes. When a reporter asked him if you don’t risk getting fat from eating pasta, and what Roberto thinks about LCHF, sparks fly:

 [LCHF] is a method for lazy idiots, you lose weight without exercise…

Obviously exercise is good in many ways. But why does everybody have to eat food that could make them fat without lots of exercise? What’s so stupid about losing weight even without exercise?

Roberto’s arguments seem to be based on old myths and misunderstandings:

Paolo Roberto: ”People ought to be beaten” (translated by Google)

What do you say, do the boxer have a point?

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  1. Rach
    I'm not sure I want to take nutritional advice from someone who gets punched in the head professionally.
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  2. Mke
    "The Swedish former boxer Paolo Roberto just published a cookbook filled with pasta recipes. ..."

    Evidently he has no ambitions to be Paleo Roberto

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  1. Reka
    Living proof for the difference between fitness experts, which he is in his sport, and health experts. Athletes are not necessarily healthier. Sometimes, or perhaps many times, the opposite is true. One may eat all kind of crap and burn them while creating lots of free radicals and wear and tear injuries, or may avoid the crap and exercise moderately. If someone is a professional athlete, they have to resort to option 1 but that doesn't make them healthy. It's a sacrifice they make for success.
  2. Zepp
    It seems that our dear Paolo has got it right.. if one do eating a typical western diet.. say this new studie!

    "Hunter-Gatherer Energetics and Human Obesity"

    "Our results indicate that active, “traditional” lifestyles may not protect against obesity if diets change to promote increased caloric consumption. Thus, efforts to supplement diets of healthy populations in developing regions must avoid inundating these individuals with highly-processed, energy-dense but nutrient-poor foods. Since energy throughput in these populations is unlikely to burn the extra calories provided, such efforts may unintentionally increase the incidence of excess adiposity and associated metabolic complications such as insulin resistance."

    http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0040503

  3. shades
    I have been dieting for the past 3 years. I was 135kg, now 100kg (though i added muscles too, if i didnt add muscles i would be like 90kg).

    First two years, i used to eat a high carb high protein low fat diet with limited amounts of calories. But i used to train for 2-3 hours daily . I used to lift heavy weight, superset it with skip rope. I lost a lot of fat, because normally speaking, on low calories and heavy training like that , your glycogen stores are continuously getting depleted fast ( same effect as if you were on a low carb/ ketogenic diet).

    This guy is a boxer, and boxers do skip rope a lot. Let me tell you something about skip rope : it is the most demanding HIIT exercise on earth. Skip rope burns more than 1500 calories per hour if done in a HIIT way.
    Add to that lifiting heavy weight and no matter how many carbs you eat, they won't have time to be stored as fat.

    This is why, for him, a pasta book works, because he surely does heavy weights, skip rope and MANY other cardio exercises required for boxing. This guy must burn more than 4000 calories a day from exercise.

    If you can exercise that much daily ( i used to) then yeah u can eat pasta and not get fat.

    However here is the funny story, the 3rd year of my diet, i had muscular definition, got kind of in shape BUT still had some belly fat and a bit of body fat all around.

    This is when i started changing my diets step by step, and a month ago i started the cylical ketogenic diet which is a very low carb diet (like LCHF) but with one day of carb up just to help with body building.

    Those "LAST STUBBORN BITS OF FAT" that i could never remove before, started to disappear bit by bit in a very short time (a month). So at some point in my humble opinion(and i am not a doctor, but talking from my own experience) you will need to lower those carbs to burn the stubborn fat.

    Is a low carb healthy/not healthy ? i'll let the Doctors and experts answer that , not me. But in a bried, the boxer's book full of pasta is not realistic for the average person, because i do not think all people can train heavy every day. I train very heavy, but now have a shoulder injury and had to stop for a while, imagine if i keep eating loads of pasta and carbs while in my recovery period... i think ill be back to 135kg as i was 3 years before.

    On a side note, what i like about this website "dietdoctor.com" is that it leaves space for nutritional debates. This is very genuine, since, the nutrition scam and propaganda out there is outrageous. In my first year of dieting i was lost with what information was right / bogus because it seems a lot of lobbying is involved in the dieting field.

    So all respect to you guys who own this website, at least you do not claim to be the ONLY ones who are right and leave space for analysis and debates.
    Maybe you should move it further and start an international nutrition campaign and debate with all kind of nutritionist /health practitioner / regulations owners to find once and for all WHAT is the right eating habits for health and weight purpose that people should follow.

    keep up the good work!

  4. Bookwyrmb
    I confess to not knowing any boxers personally, so my perception is a totally fabricated one taken from media and distant impressions.
    Given that, I must say I would not take any important advice from a boxer. His judgment, in my opinion, is proven to be faulty if, indeed, his intelligence is not extremely low. Otherwise, why choose such a career as boxing?
    It takes some degree of intelligence and judgment to recognize truths supported by research and logic. LCHF nutrition is both of these. He wouldn't know, of course, poor dear.
    Oh! And I would not try that "LCHF is for lazy idiots" line around Mark Sisson (see http://www.marksdailyapple.com)
  5. Crystal
    "you lose weight without exercising"

    sounds like a diet for smart people, actually.

    :)

  6. Jo
    Why does he present us with a false 'either/or' proposition? There's no reason people can't exercise as well as follow a LCHF way of eating. He just wants to sell his book.
  7. Al A.
    According to wikipedia and idiot is: a dolt, or dullard, a mentally deficient person, or someone who acts in a self-defeating or significantly counterproductive way.
    Making sweeping generalizations without doing the proper research is very counterproductive. SO WHO IS THE LAZY IDIOT HERE?
    I for one have been on LCHF since I found this blog more than a year ago. I am a 51 year old diabetic, I bike 60 to 100 miles a week, and workout in the gym 3 times a week. My own personal situation allows me time for exercise. But in no way has being in a LCHF diet made me lazy.
    I actually started exercising more after I got into the diet. Seeing good and relatively quick results (especially to my blood sugart) is a good motivator. Truth be told, you cannot build or maintaice an adonis type physique on diet alone. After all that dieting you will hit a wall.
    IF YOUR GOAL IS TO LOOSE WEIGHT OR BALANCE YOUR BLOOD SUGAR, THEN DIET ALONE MAY DO IT. BUT IF YOU WANT TO LOOK TIGHT, BE FIT AND STRONG, THEN YOU NEED TO EXERCISE.
  8. Al A.
    According to wikipedia and idiot is: a dolt, or dullard, a mentally deficient person, or someone who acts in a self-defeating or significantly counterproductive way.

    Making sweeping generalizations without doing the proper research is very counterproductive. SO WHO IS THE LAZY IDIOT HERE?

    I for one have been on LCHF since I found this blog more than a year ago. I am a 51 year old diabetic, I bike 60 to 100 miles a week, and workout in the gym 3 times a week. My own personal situation allows me time for exercise. But in no way has being in a LCHF diet made me lazy.

    I actually started exercising more after I got into the diet. Seeing good and relatively quick results (especially to my blood sugart) is a good motivator. Truth be told, you cannot build or maintaice an adonis type physique on diet alone. After all that dieting you will hit a wall.

    IF YOUR GOAL IS TO LOOSE WEIGHT OR BALANCE YOUR BLOOD SUGAR, THEN DIET ALONE MAY DO IT. BUT IF YOU WANT TO LOOK TIGHT, BE FIT AND STRONG, THEN YOU NEED TO EXERCISE.

  9. Jenn
    paolo does NOT have a point... His whole life revolves around being fit... He might have ample time to work out all day but I got work, school, children, and a husband.

    Then again I never really figured him for the intelligent type either.... whhhhattt? people don't have time to work out like they're in the military because they eat pasta all the time???? No you idiot!!

    I'm with Bookwyrmb on this.. I wouldn't take any medical advice from a boxer.

  10. JD
    He does have a point, and that is any lazy idiot can lose weight on a LCHF diet. Sounds like an endorsement to me.
  11. DR
    Just ran across this. Calling people "lazy idiots" is a clear case of ad hominem and is just silly. A good diet is obviously very important to health. However, I agree that it is ridiculous to think you can truly be healthy without exercise. Trying to control what you eat without exercise is counter intuitive to me. I wonder, why do some people think it is good to try to lose weight without exercise? If a LCHF diet is good, LCHF with exercise is clearly better.

    Exercise can be accomplished all day if we change the way we look at how we go about our daily lives. We you don't need to hit a gym to exercise. We can climb the stairs instead of taking the elevator! We can park at the far edge of the parking lot instead of jockeying for the closest spot like a toddler stuck in the body of an adult ;-). We can choose more often to do something active with our free time instead of sitting on our butts watching TV. If we aren't exercising enough, our own laziness and narrow-mindedness seems to me to be the most probable reasons. And I don't believe it has to be, much less should be, that way.

    Laziness isn't smart or commendable -- it's dumb. If we are embracing laziness, we are trying to live our lives in defiance of the second law of thermondynamics. Do we really think we can get away with it? A lazy person will sit around in a body that is continually active on a cellular level, and is continually exerting itself to stay balanced and organized. They are taking that body, with all its microscopic activity, and spend all their time trying to avoid exertion. They don't push themselves because it requires effort, and besides, an easier path is available. In so doing they become a living contradiction! If we choose to live that way, we will eventually pay for it because our bodies are not meant to sit around all day and rest all the time, even though rest is important. Our bodies are meant to work and be consistently active. The fascinating scientific fields of cell signaling and physiology show that exercise goes way beyond merely calculating calorie balances.

  12. mike
    Carbohydrate can be timed for muscle growth by those who tolerate it well. If your metabolically damaged then, no, do not eat it ever. It also can be used as a tool to spike insulin temporarily to allow growth hormone and thyroid levels to stay normalized on long term LCHF diets. See Cyclical Ketogenic Diets.

    He is clearly uninformed.

    1. Exercise is very inefficient for long term weight loss.
    2. Not everyone responds the same to exercise for weight loss.
    2. Obese people can do more harm than goo exercising, until a lot of weight is lost.

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  13. Galina L.
    Probably, it is all semantics, but I disagree with the idea that you have to be metabolically damaged to tolerate carbohydrates poorly. As I noticed, there are people who are genetically like that. I am one of thous people.The LC Dietitian Franziska Spritzler, RD, CDE is a good example http://www.lowcarbdietitian.com/. She found out that her blood sugar levels were higher than healthy and A1c was out of a normal range after years of eating fresh food normally recommended as a healthy one.She didn't need to loose any weight, BTW.
    I see often comments like, "LC didn't make you healthy and thinner, you just stopped eating all that junk". No, not everyone eat junk first in order to need a LC diet later.
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